Serpenco new selling policy. - Page 4

Crownan · #31 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 10:46 AM

I dont give a monkey about corns, but the theory I do not like. People buy hets which may help them create other morphs they fancy down the line. Now they wont know. Surely this will also drive down the prices of morphs in general?

To me it sounds like he has confused himself and therefore doesnt even know what he's breeding anymore? Maybe its because the colour genetics and visual mutations in corns are so close one morph can easily be mistaken for another?

Just my 2p.

hissnhers · #32 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 10:51 AM

oops - think I was still asleep when I typed the other!!!

Should have read:

I will still be buying known hets

toyah · #33 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crownan

I dont give a monkey about corns, but the theory I do not like. People buy hets which may help them create other morphs they fancy down the line. Now they wont know. Surely this will also drive down the prices of morphs in general?

I think it will keep prices up high, sadly. Using the ever-popular lavender bloodred as an example - last year, you could have bought a lavender het blood and a bloodred het lavender from Serpenco, and breed your own lav bloods in 2-3 years time.

Now, you would need to buy a lavender and a bloodred, mate them together, and then mate the babies together - so you're talking 4-6 years, making the lav bloods much harder to get without just buying one.

Of course, other people will produce hets but many people prefer not to buy hets from "unknown" smaller breeders.

cornmorphs · #34 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crownan

I dont give a monkey about corns, but the theory I do not like. People buy hets which may help them create other morphs they fancy down the line. Now they wont know. Surely this will also drive down the prices of morphs in general?

To me it sounds like he has confused himself and therefore doesnt even know what he's breeding anymore? Maybe its because the colour genetics and visual mutations in corns are so close one morph can easily be mistaken for another?

Just my 2p.

i dont thnk so, in all honesty i dont think he will sell 2 of the same hets when the hets for that morph are expensive at that time.
he could sell normal het lav and normal het cinder for like 50 quid to one person and they willnever produce anything, well not for 6-8 years.
i think it might put the price up, coz a lot of people will ONLY buy what they know. he wont have issues selling them,but might have a different market to now.

cornmorphs · #35 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by toyah

I think it will keep prices up high, sadly. Using the ever-popular lavender bloodred as an example - last year, you could have bought a lavender het blood and a bloodred het lavender from Serpenco, and breed your own lav bloods in 2-3 years time.

Now, you would need to buy a lavender and a bloodred, mate them together, and then mate the babies together - so you're talking 4-6 years, making the lav bloods much harder to get without just buying one.

Of course, other people will produce hets but many people prefer not to buy hets from "unknown" smaller breeders.

we wrote at the same time, i agree..
this kinda comes at a good time for you and me toyah, if you know what i mean

toyah · #36 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:41 AM

Yeah, must admit I am glad I bought lots of hets last year and the year before since it looks like I wouldn't be able to get them now!

cornmorphs · #37 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:43 AM

this is a copy of what i just sent to someone on the cornsnakes forum..
i think it has a valid point, especially i he IS looking to cut back.

i cant see the problem with labelling.
to be honest, wehen they hatch you simply put one label with all the details on the box, then transfer it when the snake gets upgraded into bigger boxes each time.. no hassle there. its not as if he does feed sheets like i do..
for me, if he is ill he should cut down on the snakes, not the service.
if you think about it, if he cut the snakes by half, he would get as much for making the effort with labelling so he could charge full price for hets compared to not labelling any normals and get 10 dollars for each.
makes sense to me..

Crownan · #38 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyah

I think it will keep prices up high, sadly. Using the ever-popular lavender bloodred as an example - last year, you could have bought a lavender het blood and a bloodred het lavender from Serpenco, and breed your own lav bloods in 2-3 years time.

Now, you would need to buy a lavender and a bloodred, mate them together, and then mate the babies together - so you're talking 4-6 years, making the lav bloods much harder to get without just buying one.

Of course, other people will produce hets but many people prefer not to buy hets from "unknown" smaller breeders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

i dont thnk so, in all honesty i dont think he will sell 2 of the same hets when the hets for that morph are expensive at that time.
he could sell normal het lav and normal het cinder for like 50 quid to one person and they willnever produce anything, well not for 6-8 years.
i think it might put the price up, coz a lot of people will ONLY buy what they know. he wont have issues selling them,but might have a different market to now.

Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up, my mistake

So its not great for the hobbyist then, but good for the breeders.....in a way.

Montage_Morphs · #39 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Crownan

So its not great for the hobbyist then, but good for the breeders.....in a way.

Duh... Take NERD for example, he keeps everyone on their toes each year in regards to the royal morphs by never dishing out details. Yet I doubt he loses custom over it...

cornmorphs · #40 (**permalink**) 30-06-2008, 11:51 AM

well those that are trying to live on it like al ot of the big yanks.. i suspect behind the scenes they will be quite pleased.
its a shame for us here, rich z has been respomsible for making probably 75% of all new morphs.

at the same time, on the yankie forum he does say that there are other factors, so i guess we mightnot know the full story.

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