Can anyone help. I know that putting a Bumbleebee to a Pastel could produce Killerbees, Bumblebees, Spiders, and Pastels, but what about putting a Bumblebee to a Spider?

I guess it would have the same result as the Bumbleebee to Pastel, minus the Killerbees. Can anyone confirm that for me.

Many thanks

if you put a bumblebee to a pastel you should get--
killer bees,bumblebees,spiders, pastels and normals

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BumbleBee x Spider will yield Spiders, Pastels, Normals and BumbleBees.

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You may lose colour with another lot of Bees that are produced.

Put a Bumble bee with a lemon pastel and you'll get some fine Bumbles and perhaps some Killer Bees.

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Normals? Are you sure. I thought it would just be Bumblebees, Spiders, and pastels?

If you got, say 8 good eggs, then there would be a chance you got 2 normals, 2 Bumbles. 2 Pastels and 2 spiders.

It's still hit and miss though. NOthing's for sure. You could get more normals.

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Yup, most definately normals, as it is two dominant/co-dominant genes. There is no homozygous animal to remove all normals.

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spider is dominant, in that there is no super form. Pastel is co-dominant, in that you have pastels and super pastels. An animal that is both pastel and spider is a bumblebee, an animal that is a superpastel and a spider is a killerbee. A bumblebee x spider, 75% of the offspring should be spiders, and 50% of the offspring should be pastel. The overlap will be bumblebees, and the rest will be normals. Of the 75% that are spiders, some will be homozygous spiders, meaning all the offspring from those will be spiders, even when put to a normal, as opposed to heterozygous spiders (most spiders are this) which give half normal and half spider offspring.

You may get no normals, you may get no bumblebees, but likely you will get some of both, and you wont be able to tell if the animals with spider in them have 2 copies of the gene or one.

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Good thread that when read fast just span me out

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I agree. Read that quickly and see if you can get your head round it all. great thread. Thanks for the info chaps and chapets