i remember seeing somthing before, on royals with hets that have differnt markings (white bits)

can anyone help,

my ne royal has whit rings on most of his tan patches, and alot of white spots on his tan scales.


oh yeah, i forgot to tell you all lol

i got a pretty new royal, and hessssss LOVELY a big boy too, 700g on empty .

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99.9% sure he'll just be a pretty royal as anyone selling royals will know if they carry any other genes apart from normal and will reflect it in the price unless it was say a 50% het then prices dont usually change much as it's not certain it is.

There is a possible het marker for pieds that runs along the belly. It hasn't proven out to be 100% accurate.

New born Axanthic hets come out kind of green compared to the normals in the same litter. They also have a faded triangle on the head. This came from the Barkers (VPI). The 2 het's I own have the faded head triangle.

Some morphs have them, some don't.

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the het pied marker....its been proved theres nothing in it.
but people still put this on when advertising and wack a bigger price on it.
does me head in

you got any pics?

Who proved that and when? Most if not all het pieds i've seen have that marker and a lot of breeders still seem to look for it too, new one on me if it's been unproven.

read it on ball pythons .net and another us forum

You are correct, it is a hit and miss thing with the markers. In a litter of all 100% hets you can have some with it and some without it.

Most will still by into the markers over an animal without them from the same litter.

I have seen shipments of hundreds of balls come into Texas and many of the WC babies will have the markers. And I know they didnt breed het pieds.

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yeah its very hit and miss...

people take it as gospel that they will produce het pieds...plus theres so many arounfd with these markers....everyone seems to have 1 lol

just a big coincidence IMO xxx

i've seen the same comments on pied markers posted more times than i care to remember but unfortunately i've yet to see a 100% het without the belly markers. :icon_redface:

can either of you post pics of 100% hets that dont have the belly "markers". the small handfull of 100% het pieds that i have seen all have the so called characteristic "markings". for myself i hope figure this one in time as i have selection of poss hets from either het x het or het x normal breedings from which i have kept back females with and without the so called markings.

hopefully this little guy will sort things out on the genetic front



at the very worst i'll get 100% hets from a sucessful hatch...

regards
bob

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interesting comment on the VPI axanthic line... i have a little hunch based on the 3 clutches that were sired by my male 100% het, but i didnt pick up on the fade triangle. the 1st clutch was het x normal and the latter 2 were het x het. this year i hope to get eggs from axanthic x het and also hear back from the lady that owns the 50% het females that are now being bred. so it will be interesting to see how things pan out. next year another friend should be breeding the 66% poss het females he bought to an axanthic male so it will be interesting to see what hatches out.

regards
bob

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