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Old 17-04-2008, 12:38 AM
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wen my burms had mites i tried zoo med mite off and wat a load of bollocks...! went threw 4 bottles at£7.95 a pop and it was a waste of time trid for 4 weeks like it said on the bottle and it was shite. so asked my local rep vet and hetold me get a t-towel spray with a bit of frontline on t-towel and let the snake slither threw! and then spay at top of viv and keep snakes out of vi 24hrs and wat u know poof....! gone like a genie
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Old 24-04-2008, 05:17 PM
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Is this as effective as normal olive oil as a treatment for mites on snakes? I didnt know if it would work aswell as its like fat free kind of thing...anyone used it? good or bad results? opinions?

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Old 24-04-2008, 05:24 PM
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wen my burms had mites i tried zoo med mite off and wat a load of bollocks...! went threw 4 bottles at£7.95 a pop and it was a waste of time trid for 4 weeks like it said on the bottle and it was shite. so asked my local rep vet and hetold me get a t-towel spray with a bit of frontline on t-towel and let the snake slither threw! and then spay at top of viv and keep snakes out of vi 24hrs and wat u know poof....! gone like a genie
What do you mean by spray at top of viv? on the inside so spray upwards through the front of viv? OR ontop of the viv on the outside?

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Old 25-04-2008, 01:10 PM
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I've used front line very effectivly in the past although it stinks and I'm sure it irritates the snakes, I tried some of that other stuff (in the black and purple bottle) but it was fairly expensive and although it worked I found I was getting through the small bottles very fast - I am treating several large retics, and 6 or 7 boas and others.

So I went looking for a solution that was better value and I could administer to a lareg collection every spring when a mite out break seems to occur.

I was recommended by a zoo herpetologist a solution of Oromec, you can buy this from farm suplliers (it's used to treat sheep apparently) if you mix it up in a weak solution (2%) I beleive is recommended and administer in an atomiser of some kind.

I was originally told that this was a good way to treat the snake and the enclosure (as many zoos have complex/natural set ups and removing the animals everytime mites rear their ugly little heads is not always practical)


Now I would like any advise on this chemical becasue it is supposed to be nasty (gloves and respirator are a good idea with any of this stuff) but my zoo contact has long gone and I have more questions to ask about it's apllication.

However I thought I would share this info on the off chance someone can help out with a bit of research.
sounds like the active ingredient is ivermectin (same active ingredient as beaphar insect spray)
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Old 25-04-2008, 02:36 PM
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Just found out the Boa @ shop has mites

Which Frontline are you ppl talking about regular Dog/Cat frontline or is there a special one for reptiles?
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Old 26-04-2008, 03:02 PM
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Is this as effective as normal olive oil as a treatment for mites on snakes? I didnt know if it would work aswell as its like fat free kind of thing...anyone used it? good or bad results? opinions?

FRYLIGHT

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Old 22-05-2008, 03:17 PM
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just thought i'd add a treatment thats worked for me,

i had mites, which seemed to be resistent to everything, nothing was killing them of, prevent a mite, beaphar spray, regular soaking, bleaching the vivs, putting the vivs in below 0 tempretaures, boiling water in the vivs, and they kept surviving,

so i was in tesco's and saw spot on, for dogs, so thought i'd try it

i put a few drops on a sheet of newspaper wated for a few hrs until it was dry and put it in as the substrate,
all the mites that left the snake were dieing almost as soon as they got of the snake,

so i got an old little jam jar, filled it half way with water and put 2 drops of spot on in, mixed it together with the water, and dipped a cotton wool in, and rubbed the snake with it, avoiding the head and vent,

after that i saw no mites, and within 1 treatment all were dead within a day. treatment was repeated a week later just to make sure, and there has been no mites since i have done that since.

just thought i would tell people what worked for me
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Old 25-05-2008, 09:44 AM
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i had a bad out break early in the year, haveing an large albino boa is easy to see even if you have the smallest speck of a mite on her.
i tried everything, over a time i tried every product from rep shops i could find, first was Provent a mite, this seemed to work for a time but they came back very quick, also as i had 15 vivs it did not last very long and did not spray very well seemed more of a dribble than a spray (maybe a dodgy batch)

so after trying all the other products and failing, one day i noticed a few large mites walking on my albino girl, i removed these from her and placed on a small piece of kitchen roll, each one was placed into a sample vial. i then sprayed a small amont of each product into the vials.

products tested were Mite Off, Four Paws Natures Reptile Protector and Beaphar Insect Spray.

these were left for a couple of days, when came back all mites were alive except the one with the insect spray.

conclusion: they all crap both direct on the snake and also direct on the mite!!!! except MAYBE Insect spray.

problem i was left with is the insect spray is a 50ml bottle and is not cheap, could be good if you have one snake and one viv, i cleaned out a viv, washed it out and dissenfected it, sprayed albino and waited, even with this i never saw an end to the mites.

only option left to me was Frontline, i had been avoiding this as was not sure about effect on my snakes it could have, i then washed out all vivs, while i was doing this i had my snakes all soaking in RUBs for about 3 hours, when vivs were ready i treated each snake with frontline. i applied very lightly and just a very small amount down the back.

next was a very wierd thing, a few days later i saw my albino worse than ever, they were everywher, but now mainly on her face and eyes week later i repeated the procedure, but this time applied quite heavy....and as if by magic not seen a mite since....fingers crossed and staying that way!!!!

so my advice to anyone after a looooong problem is save your money and time with the crap products in the shops and go straight to frontline.

i did not dilute with water, i sprayed direct on a towel until the towel was quite wet with it, then i rubbed it all over snake (EXCEPT head and vent) i rubbed it up and down the body to get it under the scales as best i could. the snake was quite sticky from this when finnished, they were then placed back into a super clean viv, i also sealed with bathroom sealant any cracks and holes in viv and chucked out ALL wooden items, no water was given to snake for 72 hours, all have eaten and are fine since treatment.

have to say i was very worried after this large dose given, this stuff is very strong and really stinks.

i still would advise to treat with small amounts and never spray direct on snake, if you follow my heavy treatment then you are doing this at your and your snakes own risk, however i feel it is completely safe.

thanks and sorry for the long story, if ya got this far, well done

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Old 26-05-2008, 12:19 AM
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Our Boa had mites when we bought her a few years ago, i bought frontline and diluted it with water, sprayed her lightly and cleaned viv out with it. Worked a treat!

As far as the pet shop goes, this is poor customer service and more importantly animal cruelty. The owner is aware of the problem as other customers have mentioned it, and he continues to supply contaminated products, knowlingly infecting other reptiles, sound like an offence to me! Steer clear of him, tell every other reptile owner you can so people steer clear and report this ejit to the RSPCA.

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Old 26-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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Just found out the Boa @ shop has mites

Which Frontline are you ppl talking about regular Dog/Cat frontline or is there a special one for reptiles?
Frontline Spray for dogs and cats. Not Frontline Spot.
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