Originally Posted by loxocemus

only when i wear my psychic underpants,

after u build enough things, u learn what thickness of poly and thickness of build material, the air gap between a pad and surface, substrate choice and room temp, heat from additional sources like light tubes, choice of species, mass of specimens, type of hide, if it has a bottom, if so so how thick, what material, clay, plastic wood etc, u learn how all that goes together and how to make it work, beginners generally dont know this becuase they havent done it yet, i believe theres a term for it, oh yes "experience"

the easiest unstatted setup iv made consisted of a drawer system (ala the applemeister) with a glass heat panel in the drawer below which was a 20mm sealed gap, the heat strip ran all the way down the system and reached 88 constant, i only knew this worked becuase im a parnoid tweaker and i watch a thermometer readout for days before anything with a pulse goes near it.


experience is a very valuable tool, in learning as much from mistakes as successes.

ed

Originally Posted by The_Real_Moreliaman

Ive used heatmatts without stats before..in hot weather matts get turned off or put on a timer...never had snakes burn themselves, the snake regulates its own heat....if it gets too hot them it moves to a cooler part.
This all depends on the size of the viv, the amount of ventilation & the wattage of the matt.
I couldnt give a toss if someone thinks i should have a stat....my snakes are happy & healthy & thats all that matters to me.

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

Look you cant blame me alright. its the first time owning a snake, i did my research and went to get the equipment, the place where i got the snake they were experienced people keeping alligators iguanas and everything.

in all the years they have had snakes no trouble with thermostats simple.

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

Well they seemed to know what their doing, considering the animals were in good health.

Originally Posted by loxocemus

what youve killed is none of my concern, though if i remember it was particuarly stupid of you.

Originally Posted by ratboy

If I remember rightly, it's you that freezes sick animals to death, not me.

Your memory seems to be playing tricks however since I have not killed anything.

Someone who freezes sick animals and advocates not using thermostats calling someone else stupid does seem a little hypocritical don't you think ?

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

What the hell did you mean that literally, he freezes ill animals.

What type of animals.

Originally Posted by spit051261

The point here is that you should have known what you were doing instead of taking advice from one source and treating it as gospel.
You were wrong mate,there is no argument concerning stats.If you carry on like this,you are not going to make many friends here..
Just accept it........you have been told the same thing many times now.
Paul

Originally Posted by ratboy

Originally Posted by ratboy

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

WTF freeze your sick animals.

And im the bad one, im never taking your advice, and as for online friends i have 25 lol.

You didnt seem to think of taking your snake to the vets if it was ill. Like you said if you cant afford to care for an animal, dont own them.