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Old 18-10-2007, 12:01 PM
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Okay here's the thing, we have a just over 9 month old corn, who's just coming up to 1.5ft, and 2 weeks ago, got an 8 week old amel who's now 10 weeks.

For now, they are both inside a 3ft viv, underneath the heat source which is an infrared heat bulb, giving them both perfect temps inside their serperate faunariums.

OH has decided that his snake, the oldest one, is ready to move into her 3ft viv, fair enough - but I wanna put it off until we have decorated her viv appropriately - branches, gotten the plants in place etc so it's not as open, and have got a heat mat and stat for the smaller snake so she can sit on top the 3ft viv in her faun.

OH has just come back from the pet shop after getting more substrate and told me that the owner told him it would be fine to put 2 corns, who have never mixed, aren't around the same size (the 10wk old has just this week started feeding on tuesday so is tiny), aren't roughly the same age, into the same 3ft viv together. And to just seperate them when feeding.

So the big question OH wants to know is - is that okay?

I personally do not want to do it at all, i'm not gonna do it. But OH insisted on me asking.

Opinions and arguements for (if any) and against it please ty!

P.S yes I know there is already an active thread about this but I want opinions on young snake with older snake etc. :]
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Old 18-10-2007, 12:07 PM
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Putting them together is BAD, the older one will bully the hell out of the younger one; maybe even eat him. He will most prob stop eating and drinking due to the extreme stress. This may cause him to die (if he doesn't get eaten that is). Housing snakes together can be a bad idea, even when simular size, but that is another argument. But housing snakes with such a size/age difference can be fatal. You will end up with one big fat happy snake, and one large piece off poo.
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Old 18-10-2007, 12:11 PM
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Exactly my arguement. Just not safe in my opinion but because a pet shop owner said it was okay, it must be.

Especially with the new one only JUST starting to eat which was a bloody lot of work on both mine and the breeders part.

But keep em coming people got some convincing to do!
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Personally I wouldn't house together until they are BOTH adults. Growing them up together has a whole heap of issues....what sexes are they? if male and female are you risking a snake becoming gravid when too young, this has a whole heap of health implications.

Quaranteen, the new snake should be kept away from your other one for a minimum of 3 months.

And this is besides any feeding and stress issues.

Best to wait IMO.
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Old 18-10-2007, 12:44 PM
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As you say there is another active thread about this, but in terms of your specific question about size differences, the only real concern I think would be stress.

Corn snake hatchlings are much more easily stressed than adults, and yeah some couldn't give a cr*p what you did, but others can be very timid. The 3 foot viv alone could cause stress, regardless of it having another occupant. It is based only on the size of snake, and size of viv that I would recommend giving you hatchling some stress free time in its faunarium until it grows, then you can consider the arguments for co-habitation.
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Old 18-10-2007, 12:56 PM
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The young snake won't be moving from it's small faunarium anytime soon, and when she does grow big enough, she will be going into the bigger faunarium the older corn is in now and eventually into a 3ft viv of her own.

I just want peoples opinions on why it is/isn't a good idea so that OH can read them seeing as he won't believe me when I tell him it's not a good idea lol.

Always had my doubts about this shop owner and this is just the cherry on top really.

The problem is he sees his snake as an individual and believes that just because some snakes do things, doesn't mean his snake will/wont etc, but in the interest of both snakes i'm not prepared to take any unecessary risks.
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Old 18-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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personally, the larger / smaller thing doesnt come into it for me, they are not social animals so shouldnt be kept with other snakes. As keepers i belive we should try and mimic the snakes natural environment as much as possible, so im prety sure in the wild a corn isnt going to be within 3 feet of another unless absolutly neccessary, just crossing paths or for breeding.
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I feel its time to release my side of this:

I want my Ghost to gradually move out of her faunarium(sp?) and into her viv. I have been planning this for a few weeks now.

I understand her Amery is way too small and so I suggested she keeps hers in her faunarium in the corner by the heatlamp whilst mine is free to roam.
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I feel its time to release my side of this:

I want my Ghost to gradually move out of her faunarium(sp?) and into her viv. I have been planning this for a few weeks now.

I understand her Amery is way too small and so I suggested she keeps hers in her faunarium in the corner by the heatlamp whilst mine is free to roam.
Whats an Amery

Even that would be far too stressful, I know i'd sh*t my load if I was in this little faun and something 8 times the size of me decided to take a nap on top of it or crawl all over/around it. Plus it would be taking up a potential basking spot for Cassie.
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I feel its time to release my side of this:

I want my Ghost to gradually move out of her faunarium(sp?) and into her viv. I have been planning this for a few weeks now.

I understand her Amery is way too small and so I suggested she keeps hers in her faunarium in the corner by the heatlamp whilst mine is free to roam.
Bad OH! :P
Sorry lol.
Anyway.. It is a bad idea to mix them together.
but.. You can move yours out of the faunarium, and keep hers in her faunarium but in the viv. But make sure to keep check on the following:

the temperature in the faunarium (Don't want hers cooking)
and if i remember rightly, hers is slightly having problems feeding anyway. Might be better to buy a small heatmat, thermostat (you'll need the thermostat when you move hers into a new viv too) and have her snakes faunarium out of the current viv.. Because it could become too stressed,.
If that makes and sense?
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