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Old 11-01-2008, 09:28 AM
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Default spider x a pastel

=bumble bee right?

what hatchling ratio can i expect

1 bumble hopefuly a few spiders and few pastels?

wishful thinking i know but?
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:32 AM
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=bumble bee right?

what hatchling ratio can i expect

1 bumble hopefuly a few spiders and few pastels?

wishful thinking i know but?

Well its possible yeah!

spider i think is classed as dominant.. although some people say its not..so a dominant X co dominant breeding should offer you theoretically.. half bumble bees half spiders and pastels.. e.g-

out of a clutch of 4

2bumblebees
1spider
1pastel..


Someone may want to correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure thats right..?
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:32 AM
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the gods with the odds should give you

25% Normal
25% Pastel
25% Spider
25% Bumble bee

so you have as much chance as a normal out of each egg as you do a Bumble Bee
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the gods with the odds should give you

25% Normal
25% Pastel
25% Spider
25% Bumble bee

so you have as much chance as a normal out of each egg as you do a Bumble Bee
oo right.. hmmm according to Mr McCurleys book (yes i did check.. lol im a geek) you would get either bumble bees or spiders and pastels.. or am i reading it wrong..
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:42 AM
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Each egg will have a 25% chance of bieng a bee.

with repsect, if you have a read around on the basics of genetics you'll soon be able to answer these questions yourself. that is a stage you should be at before you invest in anything.

My personal recommendation would be to start here:

Markus Jayne, Ball pythons | ballpython.ca

some very good, clear info on genetics on that site.

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thank you. you are totally right

the only thing is with that site.

it doesnt seem to cover mixing different types

i.e

if i mix an albino with a mojave etc
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:10 PM
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With recessives unless the snake you are breeding the recessive to is either a visual recessive or het recessive you will get normals het for that recessive.

Most people use the 4 egg scenario pastel x spider:
1 Pastel.
1 Spider.
1 Bumblebee.
1 Normal.

But you may end up with:

4 Bumblebee

or

4 Normal.

Easiest way to find out the odds is breed em and see what hatches
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:12 PM
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thank you. you are totally right

the only thing is with that site.

it doesnt seem to cover mixing different types

i.e

if i mix an albino with a mojave etc
Ignore what the morpsh are called, what you want is a basic graps of how they work.

All you need to know is if something is recessive, co-dom or dominant asnd you can figure out how they will interact with each other.

Ignbore the fancy tags and focus on how the genetics behid it works.

eg, learn how albino (recessive) breedings work. what you learn can then be applied to pied, clown and all the othe rrecessive mutations.

Learn the mechanics behind it. for now forget about what you want to buy, how muhc money things are etc just learn about how it all works. this really is a must if you're going to spend serious money on a snake for its genes.

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Ignore what the morpsh are called, what you want is a basic graps of how they work.

All you need to know is if something is recessive, co-dom or dominant asnd you can figure out how they will interact with each other.

Ignbore the fancy tags and focus on how the genetics behid it works.

eg, learn how albino (recessive) breedings work. what you learn can then be applied to pied, clown and all the othe rrecessive mutations.

Learn the mechanics behind it. for now forget about what you want to buy, how muhc money things are etc just learn about how it all works. this really is a must if you're going to spend serious money on a snake for its genes.

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