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Old 23-03-2008, 03:10 AM
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Does anyone know if the DWA list covers the Sicarious genus? Yes I'm after more potent spiders, I've been keeping 20 different species of spiders and tarantulas for over 5 years and want something a little more harsh. The DWA serves a good purpose but it is horribly constructed and priced. All of the common "nasties" are on the list, jesus even types of dogs are on it and scorpions that are fairly safe.

Does anyone know if this genus has avoided it or has the nanny state spread towards things that kill less people than bee stings per decade while alcohol is unlicensed and promoted?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, are Sicarius known as violin or recluse spiders? If so then, yes, they are on the DWA list. Don't even get me started on what a pile of poo the DWA licensing system is................Can't remember the last time a Latrodectus mauled a child to death, or a Leiurus scorp went on a rampage around a housing estate. Bloody nanny state.......
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Sicarius are south american wandering spiders, similair to Phoenutria sp.
Sicarius are considerably prettier.
Im pretty sure Phoenutria has recently been taken from the DWA list (sounds a little crazy to me) so maybe Sicarius joined? not sure
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They've taken Phoneutria off the DWA list????? I can't see that.......... one of, if not the World's most venomous and with an arsey temper to boot.
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They've taken Phoneutria off the DWA list????? I can't see that.......... one of, if not the World's most venomous and with an arsey temper to boot.
Exactly what i thought when i heard!.. il look for some evi
Ok, well the list iv found still ays a licence is required. I do hope so, but im sure i heard SIUK mention something about this last year.. Probably misheard, but still
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I think they are DWA, the family Sicariidae is in the Loxosceles genus I think (correct me if I'm wrong). If I'm right, then the DWA covers them.
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They've taken Phoneutria off the DWA list????? I can't see that.......... one of, if not the World's most venomous and with an arsey temper to boot.
They have come off the list. I was/am also a bit confused on why, but I'm almost 100% sure they are now classed as none-DWA. Silly IMO.
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http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-cou...animallist.pdf

from what i can see Phoneutria are on, but only Loxosceles genus in the family Sicariidae.

lee where did you see that they were off the listings?

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ok, worng post! lol
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This is what I had emailed to me when they changed the DWA list:

The following animals are no longer listed in the Schedule and so the provisions of the Act no longer apply to them: certain smaller primates (woolly lemurs, tamarins, night (or owl) monkeys, titis and squirrel monkeys), sloths, the North American porcupine, the capybara, crested porcupines; cacomistles, racoons, coatis, olingoes, the little coatimundi, kinkajou, binturong, cat hybrids which are predominantly domestic cat, hyraxes, guanaco, vicuna, emus, sand snakes, mangrove snakes, and the Brazilian wolf spidersThe additions are:Dingo Canis familiaris dingoArgentine Black-headed snake Elapomorphus lemniscatus, South American green racer Philodryas olfersii,
Peruvian racer Tachymenis peruviana,
Amazon false viper Xenodon severus.Middle eastern thin-tailed scorpion Hemiscorpius sp.


I will look for the updated list shortly.
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