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Old 10-05-2008, 05:05 PM
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Well what do you prefer I say? That his spiders will live forever? That he should rush out and give up his hobby? Nah. He should take some time out, before rushing into anything, but sorry, I am not going to have a minutes silence every time someone has an invert that dies.

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Aww, Cam. It's not fair is it?!!
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aww im srry cam

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Scolopendra tiger legs off you in a week or so if you want mate ?

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I'm sorry to hear that. Pedes seem far more fragile than T's. I know I've lost a few myself. Those I've lost have been mostly through listening to advice on humidity. I now keep al pedes same as the morsitans I've had for nearly 4 years- NO misting whatsoever, just a water dish and bone dry substrate. Works for me.
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I'm sorry to hear that. Pedes seem far more fragile than T's. I know I've lost a few myself. Those I've lost have been mostly through listening to advice on humidity. I now keep al pedes same as the morsitans I've had for nearly 4 years- NO misting whatsoever, just a water dish and bone dry substrate. Works for me.
Would surely never work with Scolopendra subspinipes though?
Iv lost a couple in the past as soon as the substrates dried, when cut open after death you can see they have a pourous, yet thick body, they turn hollow if they are not kept in humidity, they simply loose their body fluids.
The tank substrate was a little dry when i found them both, thats actually what i blame.
Though it wasnt excessively dry

It could be thought the heat added to the issues, im not sure really.

Bloody annoying to be honest

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Well what do you prefer I say? That his spiders will live forever? That he should rush out and give up his hobby? Nah. He should take some time out, before rushing into anything, but sorry, I am not going to have a minutes silence every time someone has an invert that dies.

No, I dont think he means it that way either.

I agree, that rushing into things is a bad idea, and tbh, if you have multiple pets, then multiple pets will die - I dont think the OP had any illusions that they might live forever, but 2 deaths in one day is unlucky to the max. I also think a lot of it was that the pede's were not old; they didnt die of old age, and that is a source of misery when someone thinks that a pet dies because of their doing and not time.

My own suggestion would be to perhaps tone down your collection until you feel you can deal with such potential for loss again. Have only a few inverts, then the most you can lose is those same few, and not dozens.
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No, I dont think he means it that way either.

I agree, that rushing into things is a bad idea, and tbh, if you have multiple pets, then multiple pets will die - I dont think the OP had any illusions that they might live forever, but 2 deaths in one day is unlucky to the max. I also think a lot of it was that the pede's were not old; they didnt die of old age, and that is a source of misery when someone thinks that a pet dies because of their doing and not time.

My own suggestion would be to perhaps tone down your collection until you feel you can deal with such potential for loss again. Have only a few inverts, then the most you can lose is those same few, and not dozens.
lol, tone down? im on my bare minimum now buddy lol, iv sold most of my collection off and have less than 20 individuals now!
i can take care of much larger numbers.. nothing to do with toning down..
But yeah, multiple deaths happen, im used to it, but these are more significant, than a couple of slings or something to me.
All of my collection i have left is what i consider my pet inverts, when iv had 50, 60 plus most are still just spiders, until i form a bond with them, by which point i hold new admiration for them, they get a name and theyr never sold, if i dont find a bond of sorts, then they could be sold without much issue.
Its not so much about multiple losses but simply WHAT iv lost, lol
Toning down what measly collection i have ledft will mean il have none, lol
Thanks anywho buddy i know your still talking sense.
I guess its a lapse of care? as said i didnt think it was morbidly dry in the tanks, still dont so cause of death is still unkown.

Your right, its simply the fact they should not have died at this point so its the care thats responsible in someway.
Billy was a massive pede when i got her, but grew and got really big.. i dont think shed have had loads of life left, but enough to have seen her to the other side of this year.
Having spend loads of hours reading studies and journals on them, my standard of care for my pedes is simply top ASAIK, thats why its pained me. lapse or not its Fing annoyed me.
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Would surely never work with Scolopendra subspinipes though?
Iv lost a couple in the past as soon as the substrates dried, when cut open after death you can see they have a pourous, yet thick body, they turn hollow if they are not kept in humidity, they simply loose their body fluids.
The tank substrate was a little dry when i found them both, thats actually what i blame.
Though it wasnt excessively dry

It could be thought the heat added to the issues, im not sure really.

Bloody annoying to be honest

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Well I don't know about all subspinipes but I bought three S.s mutilans about 5 months ago. Guy I bought from advised spagnum moss in places and daily misting. So I thought well ok, guys kept them before. Guess what, 6 weeks later, 2 are dead, their bodies I can only discribe as looking mushy. Now I hadn't drenched the substrate just did as advised. So I removed all the moss and damp sub. replaced with peat/coco mix and a water dish topped daily. Not misted since. Pede thriving.
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What I am simply saying (to make the chap feel better, and because it is true), is that sometimes animals and people just die, despite our best efforts.

My Yellow Fat Tail died the other week, and I was sore to lose that, but it is not like a normal pet, you cannot really do that much about it, you cannot really take one to a vets, if you feel it is somewhat off colour.

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Heh, all I can say is that 20 inverts to me is a lot anyway! :P

I have 3 the now, I think thats sufficient for myself, and Charlotte is quite a character anyway.
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