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Old 20-05-2008, 08:30 PM
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Anyone else heard recently, that several Praying Mantids which literally GLOW, in a variety of colours, have recently been developed?

As amazing as it sounds, there is a precedent for this, you can buy 'glowfish', which have been genetically made that way, through introducing some gene from another animal to it.

The e-mail that I got said that the type used were a standard African species, as they had proved hardiest, during the test phase. Colours produced are irridescent blues, greens, orange, and a red.

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Old 20-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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Bloody stupid, and unfair in my opinion, its like the fish you can buy taht have been tattooed
Shame these cruel things actually happen, so immoral
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Old 20-05-2008, 09:06 PM
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Not really sure if there is any evidence of 'cruelty' involved. This would have to be defined as causing needless pain and/or suffering, and AFAIK, there is none of that, in this process, and it does not harm the animal in any manner.

Of course, the added thing is that these experiments often take place with a view to positive scientific advancement as well, something that we might all benefit from?
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Old 20-05-2008, 09:12 PM
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well, bioluminesence in pet fish serves no purpose to anyone, nor anything.
Its immoral, not technically cruel.
Gene splicing is a contraversial topic, be it human or beast.
I dnt think its moral, nor fair.
Animals should be as theyr suppsed to be and should be left like that, lol
Only my opinion, im not trying to preach
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There could be a benefit to humanity, I understand that they are already using the science of the fish, to adapt and make special items for people use, helpful one's. I am afraid that mankind has always utilised the animal kingdom for scientific advance, sometimes it IS cruel, and other times there has been a benefit to our species...
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Old 20-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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well i appreciate that, but most methods are also wrong.

Would love to know what benefit glow in the dark fish is to our racethough.

I can only see this as a commercial programme, intent on selling glowing animals, i do not think that benefits peolpe, that was my reason about tatoo fish.
What if these fish are released into habitable waters? theyr in reality hybrid animals, geneticly forged into a single entity.
they could damage the natural biotype. Think killer bees, they were hybrids, but were too efficient and too advanced, theyv escaped due to idiots, and now terrorise vast areas of the us, ever increasing numbers that also fight other bee competition.
Many reasons i feel its wrong

Also even morphing and such can have serious implications to the genetic stability of an animal..think dogs most of thes breeds are purely imbred for certain traits, and not all inherited traits are good. Many types of breeds have heriditory problems specific with the breed, many are highly detrimental to the animals well being ... In fairness dogs are now much better and stable but thats through selective breeding again. Even leos, is it Enigma morph that seem to have serious problems as young?..thats breeders responsibilites, all that suffering and pain in some cases for nothing more than a slightly different coloured animal.

I really have gone on a tangent now, but its semi-relevant i spose
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Old 20-05-2008, 09:53 PM
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What's yer favourite breed of dog? I hope it is the wolf, because if it is almost anything else, then the breed will have been 'created', by man, using selective breeding, over time.

This has left us with a wide range of dog types, all of whom were originally bred for a specific purpose, but are now kept more as pets, than their original intent.

On many occasions, pedigree dogs, dogs that were bred to look a certain way, have genetic health problems, simply caused by being the type of breed that they are. A Bulldog or Sharpei would be two good examples of dogs that have suffered health problems, in their 'creation'.

However, there are also many positive examples of dogs being bred for roles that have been a great help to us, as people.

Maybe the fish/mantid thing is more inclined to it being pleasing on the eye, right enough mate.

Yet, if it has done no harm to the animal, nor has it been done or a rare species, which this wasn't, and there is also no danger to the environment, then I don't think it is so bad....
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I'm not a fan. If it doesn't happen in the wild, i won't keep it! lol
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I'm not a fan. If it doesn't happen in the wild, i won't keep it! lol
Maybe of the captive bred inverts that are on sale today, are not technically 'true' as the wild one's, due to cross breeding programmes, and other gene alternations, so there is that....
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