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Old 09-06-2008, 11:45 PM
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:54 AM
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Glad its helpful. unfortunately my nets a bit screwed and i cant access photubucket, or imageshack so i couldnt and cant add in some pics to help.
I found that over the last 6-9months iv been approached quite regularly regarding them. I do tend to tell the extreme about their potential as its more important for people to know.. essentially the more common the bites occur, the more likely they will be banned. I personally do find it quite incredible they are not DWA, i know many scorps and spiders that are DWA but so much less concerning.
They are fascinating creatures, maybe even beautiful:P But they command respect and alertness!(if thats a word)
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:57 AM
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I had centipedes, terrified of them. Kept a small one from the garden and i was terrified of that.
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Probably Lithobius sp..they awesome things, massive mxillipeds too!
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I wish I understood LD50 thingies.

LD50 table

Maybe someone can clarify.
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basically its how many milligrams per kilo it would take to kill a mouse.
its not very accurate due toman not being mice:P
ie Atrax robusta is sydney funnel web, they dont often kill a mouse, where as a human incident results in death without hopspital visit.pedes are insignificant on LD50 as the poson,on ly works on pain receptors, just like a bee sting, it only hurts..where as unlike a bee, a pede bite would hurt extensively! lol
as said, pedes are on the bottom end of the Ld50 scale, they do not have sstemic reactions.
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basically its how many milligrams per kilo it would take to kill a mouse.
its not very accurate due toman not being mice:P
ie Atrax robusta is sydney funnel web, they dont often kill a mouse, where as a human incident results in death without hopspital visit.pedes are insignificant on LD50 as the poson,on ly works on pain receptors, just like a bee sting, it only hurts..where as unlike a bee, a pede bite would hurt extensively! lol
as said, pedes are on the bottom end of the Ld50 scale, they do not have sstemic reactions.
I was only trying to find a comparison on how much more a pede bite would hurt more than a bee or wasp but result tables like that just confuse me at 03:00 in the morning
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stop looking at LD50 tables then, watch some porn!
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stop looking at LD50 tables then, watch some porn!
At work, the company firewall prevents it and the computers are locked to admin clearance only.
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I dont think there is any table to compare pain in different venoms - its too subjective. What is intense agony for some might only be "moderate" agony for others based on other experiences and pain sensitivity.

I'd just trust that its agony - many native peoples of jungle environments usually kill centipedes because they are so feared - yet let spiders and scorpions scurry away un touched. I guess that sums up how bad they must hurt, as i'd trust the knowledge of the native people who know the land and animals the best
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