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Old 13-06-2008, 07:35 PM
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Inverts are many things, but they are not sophisticated thinkers.

They rely purely on instinct, even those that are captive bred are driven by the simple desire to find a burrow, get food, and rarely stray far from said burrow.

Yet even in instances when people make a good job of replicating the environment for there pede or whatever, and feed it as recommended, I still here of cases were these inverts try to make their escape.

Which sort of conflicts with this idea that they prefer to sit tight to their territory, and not try to roam into areas were there might be predators, etc..

I do not personally think there is any evidence for bugs having the human indulgence of 'curiousity', therefore, I would rule that out as a motive.

I have two theories.

First, even if you feel that you are feeding it, as per care sheet, that does not mean to say that the pede agrees!

It could be hungry when you do not know it, and it decided to go on the hunt for food, if there is none around.

Or....it could be that they are also driven to find a mate at certain times, and with none in the viv, they go on the hunt for some totty.

What do you think of those as possibles, as there would appear no other rational reason why it would try to leave the safety and warmth of it's immediate surrounds otherwise...
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pedes are active hunters and will scurry a long distance each night. its pedes instincst to be nomadic. in the wild they do not occupy a single area. They travel and eat what they stumble into on their travels.
yourtalking generic, but no inverts can really be similiarised so much
definately agree with the sexual orientation though, its sense for them to actively hunt for a shag..BUT females generally will not be the ones looking.
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pedes are active hunters and will scurry a long distance each night. .
Yeah, pedes were a rubbish example, but that said, I had a pede, a large one, and for six months it never tried to escape, and was totally content were it was.

Then, with no warning, it escaped twice in a week!!!

If all animal behaviour has reason to it, there must have been a reason for that, and the only one that I can think of would be food or mating orientated.

But I have read here of people with escaping spiders too, and they are less inclined to leave the safety of their burrow in the wild...
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Don't tarantulas in the wild have a large area with quite a few burrows/hides?
Maybe they feel the need to have more space or have a couple more hides. My G.rosea used to attempt to escape all the time, so I decided to decipher exactly what was wrong.
I'd change something about in her tank, and leave it a week observing her.

I started by simply moving her things about, hide into a different corner etc. Watched her carefully and noted down her behaviour, she was happy for a while, but after 3 days, she began trying to push the lid off.

Then I tried a different substrate, changed it from vermiculite to a mix of peat and vermic. She stopped trying to push the lid off, until day 5!

So then I tried moving her to a completely new tank, something that offered slightly less height, but a lot more floor space. She was ok for a couple of days, but soon started pushing at the lid to get out.

So I tried putting a different type of plant in there, a plant that lies across the floor instead of sticking up in the air. She soon webbed over them, and I thought I'd finally got it perfect. But then I found her up by the lid again
So for a last attempt at figuring out what was bothering her, I stuck another hide in for her, and put a lot more air holes in. She didn't once try to get out during the week I left it to observe her!

I did this about 3 months ago, since then, she hasn't tried to get out, has been more consistent with her feeding and sits outside of her hides a lot.

So maybe it just is perfecting the tank just that little bit.
In the wild, if a spider decides it's a teeny bit sandy/gravely/out in the open too much, or anything like that, it can move to somewhere different.

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well my rosie has never had a hide, nad never had itnerest in escaping in the 4yrs shes been in the current setup. agaiin in nature, mostly all Ts only occupy a single hide, unless its not suitable, they will move to another, but generally one home for life
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Best escape artist of all are the pedes though.

No other invert can match them for that one thing.
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Best escape artist of all are the pedes though.

No other invert can match them for that one thing.
agree wholeheartedly, lol
you need fort nox to ensure no escape with a pede!
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Old 13-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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And as I mentioned to GRB, my largest camel spider made a good effort to literally much it's way clean through the tank last night.

It was just by chance that I noticed it.
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Don't tarantulas in the wild have a large area with quite a few burrows/hides?
Maybe they feel the need to have more space or have a couple more hides. My G.rosea used to attempt to escape all the time, so I decided to decipher exactly what was wrong.
I'd change something about in her tank, and leave it a week observing her.

I started by simply moving her things about, hide into a different corner etc. Watched her carefully and noted down her behaviour, she was happy for a while, but after 3 days, she began trying to push the lid off.

Then I tried a different substrate, changed it from vermiculite to a mix of peat and vermic. She stopped trying to push the lid off, until day 5!

So then I tried moving her to a completely new tank, something that offered slightly less height, but a lot more floor space. She was ok for a couple of days, but soon started pushing at the lid to get out.

So I tried putting a different type of plant in there, a plant that lies across the floor instead of sticking up in the air. She soon webbed over them, and I thought I'd finally got it perfect. But then I found her up by the lid again
So for a last attempt at figuring out what was bothering her, I stuck another hide in for her, and put a lot more air holes in. She didn't once try to get out during the week I left it to observe her!

I did this about 3 months ago, since then, she hasn't tried to get out, has been more consistent with her feeding and sits outside of her hides a lot.

So maybe it just is perfecting the tank just that little bit.
In the wild, if a spider decides it's a teeny bit sandy/gravely/out in the open too much, or anything like that, it can move to somewhere different.

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I totally agree with what you did. My Curly T spent a lot of time crawling up the sides of her tank. She had somewhere to hide but not a proper hide, so I gave her one. This cut down dramatically on her climbing, I then constructed a subterranean burrow and put her hide on the opening. Since then the only time I see her is when she ventures out for food.
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