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Once the local Authority grant you a license can it only be taken off you through the courts? Or could they (if they wanted to) still take his license off him?

It says on the AR page that during previous inspections animals had been concealed from view. On the Performing Animals Act that is an offence but I assume that they were just AR groups and not the LA or the police.
The answer is yes, but only a Court can do so, the Local Authority are empowered to issue licences (registration) but only the Court can rescind it, this applies to most licences.

What this case demonstrates if a failure with the Local Authority to actually do their job properly…….!! That may sound a little harsh, and to an extent it is, but the failure is not just the LA failed in its responsibilities it is also with central government and its failure to ensure LAs are resourced (funded) enough to do the job!
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I just had a read through some of the comments myself, and I just could not help but reply on their page.

I am bloody damn sorry about this, but I have to post this (dixon zoo) I am not a busuness or organisation of any kind, so I don't want this to sound liek it is comming from a zoo, this is my page, that I simply use to discuss animals, it is my opinion only, but an opinion that I will be happy to post, and I speak for many when I say this. I stand from a viewpoint of used to having respect for stephen, he was an inspiration to many of us.

Worcestershire-based animal expert Stephen Rowlands in court over mistreatment of animals, animal keepers who claim to care and love there animals are defending him!!! people never bloody cease to amaze me! THIS MAN FAILED to providee a standard of care to his animals, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED! the conditions they were in had no place on this planet, he kept taking in rescues and couldn't help them, he claimed the summer prevented him from doing their enclosures (which is fair enough) but I don't know if this is just me or not, but before I agree to take on any animal, I make sure I have the enclosure, it comes with the enclosure or what-ever, saying that I do applaud the man for holding his hands up, using his own expireince as a raise of awareness of just how quickly things can get out of hand, or how easy it is to dig yourself in and unable to get out, his punishement is this 12 weeks suspended sentence, £106,580 to pay towards the vet and rehoming costs.

I am sorry but I have just read some of the comments on tropical inc after reading a thread, STEPHEN ROWLANDS should have been BANNED from keeping animals! Surely if he can employ a veterinary nurse, part-time carer and cleaner and students now, why couldn't he at least get someone to help these animals earlier? Clearly hes doing well for himself so I don't buy that enclosure BS nonsense, it is not about punishing him (even if he deserves it) it is about protecting animals from this sort of thing in the future, I am very angry and frustrated that he is still allowed to work with animals, I am very digusted at the fact he is still allowed to perfom animal edicational events, here is an anology a parent (who just so happens to be a teacher) goes home, abuses their kids, doesn't feed them or what-ever, the kids are took from the parent (teacher) but then the teacher is still allowed to work with kids, see the point I am making, it isn't right.and there would be uproar if that was allowed to happen.

Stephen Rowlands, you can lie to yourself and your minions, you can cleverly wrap people around your finger and play on their heart strings, you can claim that you tried, but you are not fooling me for one moment, you had the ability to house them, you had the money to do so, you had the contacts to help you, you had suppliers who would deliver right to your business door, you have let yourself down, you have let those that respected you down, and much more than that, you let down those animals that you had been entrusted with, they depended on you to provide for thhem, or at least find somewhere that could, and you should have been banned simple as that (anyone who is on the tropical inc page) claiming that this man is WONDERFUL! and his work is good, offering him support, needs to wake up! SOME OF THESE ANIMALS DIED! and in very horrifc conditions! many of them were living in filth, in cages with NOTHING! Many of them required treatment and VET INTERVENTION! whats damn WONDERFUL ABOUT THAT!!!!

seriously..... this is an animal educator who has been on tv, he has done many education events, c'mon people, this isn't right! I seriously question humanity sometimes, you lead by example, and this is not a leading example! It is a joke he should even be allowed near another animal again after that, Animal rights are going to have a feild day with this, this will seriously have an impact on our hobby, and it will be used for many years to come, (one of our own experts) A MONSTROUS BETRAYAL to those who repsected him, to the animals, and to our community as a whole,!!!! does that sound wonderful, does that sound like he has done good work, what he done, has no place on this planet, I am absloutley horrified that so called animal lovers are supporting the vile and vulgar acts he commited, he should have known better than anyone, he should have known when to say no. And no I do not have one bit of sympathy for those who commit crimes against animals! You should have been banned, and I hope what you have done sits on your concious for many years to come, I seriously hope it impacts your business and education awareness, there are those out there who give a high standard of care to their rescues, look after them, spend alot of time and money on them, get vet intervention as required, those are the real rescues, those are the real wonderful people, those are the ones that should be respected, those are the ones that end up with the animals from conditions that you yourself provided! You disgust me, I am horrified, if this is what our community stands for, I for one can see where the animal rights activists are comming from, they will gain much support over this, and will further fuel a complete bann in the future. Sorry stephen, I have to say it, I am sorry if it sounds harsh but it has to be said, if this is where animal lovers stand, protecting abuse and neglect, im out for one.
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I think the animals would still be living like that today if he had not have been found out,unless he is a halfwit,how could you possibly go into those rooms and not feel anything but disgust.The excuse for not building enclosures because of the weather,well,the new enclosures do not look like they would have taken more than a day to put together.As most know,we are building enclosures all the time regardless of the weather.He is obviously use to BS his way out of situations.
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Don't know about anyone else, but we had a great summer didn't we? It was bloody hot and perfect enclosure building weather!

What saddened me was watching a couple of his YouTube vids, and then thinking what those animals had to go back to, once the performance was over :'(
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Well said Shaun! I agree with every word you have said.
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The RSPCA only laid charges under Section 9 of the Animal Welfare Act, i.e. lightly to cause suffering. They did not lay any charges under Section 4, i.e. the animals actually suffered. So one would have to assume the RSPCA were entirely happy no animals actually suffered!
Unbelievable! So one died very soon after they were taken away from him and more died later and yet the RSPCA in their wisdom seem to think that no animals suffered?? Very hard to believe.

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I think the animals would still be living like that today if he had not have been found out,unless he is a halfwit,how could you possibly go into those rooms and not feel anything but disgust.The excuse for not building enclosures because of the weather,well,the new enclosures do not look like they would have taken more than a day to put together.As most know,we are building enclosures all the time regardless of the weather.He is obviously use to BS his way out of situations.
Totally agree!

he says on his Facebook page and in reports that he knew he had problems and was out of his depth - did he come clean then?? No, of course he didn't and he's only trying to save himself by being sycophantic and getting everyone on side.

He'd never get me on side though, because I think what he did was unforgivable - I can never condone any kind of cruelty and neglect is cruelty and he neglected the basic 5 freedoms of those animals.
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Don't know about anyone else, but we had a great summer didn't we? It was bloody hot and perfect enclosure building weather!

What saddened me was watching a couple of his YouTube vids, and then thinking what those animals had to go back to, once the performance was over :'(
All my reptiles spent every day of the summer outside, catching the suns rays, roaming around, fresh air, enriuchment, climbing the trees near my house, here is my igunas sitting around our herb garden where we grow food for them, or sitting in outdoor enclosures (excuse my males mouth) he had rubbed it on some outdoor enclosure mesh, we had to build another one to stop him rubbing the bottom.

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I am really shocked by this - I have met him and had a tropical ink event for my sons birthday - it was excellent and the staff were really knowledgable and were very careful to keep the needs of the animals covered while doing the event. He talked to me about how the majority of animals come to him from zoos when they over breed or there are some species that are too specialist for them - he also talked about how he took "imperfect animals" from breeding projects that otherwise would have been destroyed.

What makes me angriest about this is that the man has the knowledge of the needs of these animals - he clearly demonstrated it when I talked to him. This means that he decided to keep them in poor conditions - I assume deciding to put profit before welfare. I hope that the publicity from this ensures that people cease using the busines and that it has to cease to operate.
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So we're concluding that he just couldn't be arsed, and is now only going for the sympathy vote, because he got caught!
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So we're concluding that he just couldn't be arsed, and is now only going for the sympathy vote, because he got caught!
You can't deny, playing on heart strings is a very effective one when you have been cornerd.
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You can't deny, playing on heart strings is a very effective one when you have been cornerd.
Well it's worked for many politicians and z-list celebrities
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