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Old 27-05-2009, 01:28 PM
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Any chance this can be stickied?

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Old 27-05-2009, 01:31 PM
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Yeah would make a good sticky. Cheers for the list!
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Old 27-05-2009, 01:52 PM
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Fantastic! What a good idea! STICKY please
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Old 27-05-2009, 04:46 PM
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Many of these plants are are fine for reptiles that don't eat them. For those that don't eat them, you have to be wary of the plants that have toxins that can cause skin reactions,allergies, my wife, for example, gets a rash from the Christmas tree but I don't.

On the list, these are the ones that say, causes dermatitis, this is not a dermatitis like blister disease or scale rot, which are infections. So remove the plant and the rash goes.
All of the ficus family are a bit toxic but only if eaten, I've had ficus in all my vivs for about 25 years and never seen a problem, had frogs on the back of rubber plant leaves and their skins are susceptible to toxins.

The flag Iris sap is toxic but ponds are sometimes surrounded by it and the aquatic life is not effected.

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Old 02-06-2009, 05:17 PM
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Many of these plants are are fine for reptiles that don't eat them
Not strictly true. There's another issue that crickets or locusts eat the plants then pass toxins onto the animals when they eat them. And if parts of them fall into the water where the rep/phib drinks or bathes.

I was surprised to find cabbage on the list! Gives me a reason not to eat it
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:21 PM
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Many of these plants are are fine for reptiles that don't eat them
Not strictly true. There another issue that crickets or locusts eat the plants then pass toxins onto the animals when they eat them.


I was surprised to find cabbage on the list! Gives me a reason not to eat it
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:32 PM
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Never lost an animal due to plant toxins in 30 odd years.Had a colony of crickets living in my naturalistic vivs for some years too. Melisa intended the list to be for food plants.
A great many of those plants would never grow in a viv anyway.

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Old 02-06-2009, 07:31 PM
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aaah I see! Yes I was kinda thinking who would plant an apple tree in their viv?

By your experience maybe but on pollywog's site there was a frog that died from eating crickets that had eaten a toxic plant.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:14 PM
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This list may have some value, but be careful who compiled it and for what purpose. It certainly isn't a "LIST OF TOXIC PLANTS" with the implication that you shouldn't use these plants 'cos they are toxic. I know the OP had a disclaimer at the front but I think it's still misleading

If all those plants are toxic I'd be dead. So would all my animals.

> APPLES (Malus spp.); seeds; plant is cyanogenetic.
> EUROPEAN BEECH (Fagus sylvatica); seeds; gastrointestinal tract
> affected by saponins.
> OAKS (Quercus spp); buds, leaves; oak tannin causes gastritis and
> nephritis.

I had apple wood branches in with my snakes for years. Beech is fine too. I have oak branches in there now.
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It must have been a very toxic plant for the very small amount of toxin in the crickets gut to have caused the frog to die and I'd be very interested to know which plant this was?
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