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Old 12-12-2006, 09:09 PM
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Hello everyone
Just joined the forum today as im thinking of getting some gecko after xmas and i have a few questions.
Iv read that 2 can live ok in a 24inch viv.Is that right?
Would slate floor tiles be ok for the tank floor?
If slate is ok where would i put the heat mat?
If i only bought one to start withhow difficult would it be to add another at a later date?
what sort of decorations are bestin their vivs?

Ok so more than a few but thats all i can think of at the moment.

Thanks in advance for answering guys
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:38 PM
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they should be ok might me a bit werey of each other to start with if u keep 2 in the same viv make sure there females , males will fight
fake plants , stones , hides and stuff like that

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Old 12-12-2006, 10:16 PM
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hi vicky.welcome to the forum! I would reckomend starting off with 1 leo at first but yes your right you can keep 2 together ok as long as they are both females like graz says.If you get a young leo-juvinile-then you can not always tell what sex your leo is untill its a little older.You can get older leos-adults and these are quite easy to sex and your local pet shop should be able to sex it for you.With regards to your question about the slate or tiles in the viv:well you place your heat pad or mat under a floor tile at one end of the viv.Im not sure if you know or not that a leo has to absorb heat through its tummy to help it digest its food so this is why its place here.also dont worry about it geting to hot or anything,its shouldnt do as mine dont.Like graz says you can use pretty much anything to decorate your viv.a lot of people have their own design using bits of everything from fake plants and rocks to slate and a butter tub for a little hidy house.You cant really go wrong so have a go and let your creative side loose!
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yay i got something right ! lol
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thanks guys
from what i read i knew they needed the heat on their tummies but read somewhere that the slate tiles get too hot bt i just wanted to check, and i realised from other posts that it would have to be two females.
Whats the best temp to have the heat matat?
And is it ok for me to add a light?if so whattype are best?
just to make it easier to see them.this would only been on when im in my bedroom.so probably from 6-7pm till about 10-11 would this be ok?

Also the reason i ask about getting 1 and adding another later is a) the price b) i want to make sure ican look after them properly

The place im going to try and get them from is called Cost to coast in Darlington
http://www.britnett-carver.co.uk/c2c...dsinstock.html

the first 9 on the list are there leo's and was thinking about starting with the hatchling to begin with.Is this a good idea?

Also noticed they have blizzards which i really really like the look of and its my birthday in april so was tempted to ask my parents for another one then
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Leos dont need the heat from thier tummies.
If your heat mat is on the bottom then slate may heat up quite a bit, but to be honest should be ok if theres something else between the slate and the mat.
You could definetly use slate chippins on the cool end where the mat isnt tho.
Likewise if you put the mat on the rear wall you can have the slate all over the bottom.
I dont use slate chippings as a standalone substrate myself, we just scatter bits about for decor or to fill in awkward gaps and to place in a circle around water bowls etc

If you get one leo then sex depending it should be ok to introduce another, however you could also get 2 right away, especially if they are together in the shop where u get them, assumin they are old enough to sex you could just do your best to get a male and a female.

One thing ive learned and i think most ppl here will tell you, always be prepared and ready to seperate any reptiles you hope to house together if the need arises, meaning if you cannot possibly afford another viv if u need it, dont take the risk and stick to a single specimen.
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Leos dont need the heat from thier tummies.
If your heat mat is on the bottom then slate may heat up quite a bit, but to be honest should be ok if theres something else between the slate and the mat.
You could definetly use slate chippins on the cool end where the mat isnt tho.
Likewise if you put the mat on the rear wall you can have the slate all over the bottom.
of course leos need heat from siiting on a heat mat.if a leo is given a basking light then they can have digestive problems.leos are not bearded dragons.they absorb heat through there stomach it even states it in the leopard gecko manual unless the auther is wrong to.When i did my veteriary nurse training and i specialised in exotic they taught me that to.To have a heat pad on the wall would be not much use to a leo at all.

With my all my vivs and all the 28 vivs at college i looked after and still do we use slate and we have never had a problem.the geckos tend to move to the cooler side of the viv when they get warm.My heat mat is left on all the time and it cools and warms up to a set temp so they dont over heat.With regards to the light you will be best getting either a blue or red night glow one as your leos if given a normal bulb will just hide from it.this alows you to look at your leos and they dont really notice the light.

If money is and issue and you do intend to get more then one leo then i think its just going to be a question of time with them.if you get a juvinile then ask the people at the petshop if they have any idea what sex it is.Although they mite not be able to sex it with it being young they might have an idea if the egg was incubated at a temp for females or males.other then that i think its going to be a waiting game untill they are going to be old enough to sex.2 females do tend to get on ok.i put another female with mine and they have both been fine.

like iv said time and time again on the forum there is no wrong way to keep a leo.everyone has their own things that work for them.these are just mine and the way i was and still am trained by the royal college of veterinary surgeons.I know people who have been keeping reptiles for years and they do something that is almost unherd of but they swear by their ways and what works for them.so give it a go and adapt along the way i say!
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I'll say again, leos dont need to get tier heat from below.
Thats my opinion on what i have read in multiple manuals named after a leopard gecko.

I wouldnt be saying the author was wrong either, maybe missquoted
"leos in the wild absorb heat that has been stored from the desert sun throughout the day when they emerge to hunt at night"
For instance could be missinterpreted as "leos have to get thier heat through thier bellies"
But it would be a missinterpretation nonetheless.
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Ok brilliant thanks for the advice.
So far iv decided on a 2ft viv with slate floor tiles on the bottom,decorations,a heat mat at one end to the correct emp. il start with one youngester till i know the sex and when i go for my 2nd one il get an older one where the sex is garenteed
Does this sound a good place to start?

iv also read they need a humid hide to help them shed,what the best end to put this at and how do ikeepit humid? are they any materials that will help with this?
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http://www.livefoods.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=706

I think its called spaghnum moss, its good to use for that.

http://www.livefoods.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=255
I assume live moss would be ok too though.

Other than that im not sure, i think, altho cant say with certaintly tha anything that can hold moisture and not in any way cause harm should be fine.

For instance, a sponge scurah [spelling, sorry no idea] dampened and possibly cut into pieces might do the job.
Ofcourse theres alwasy the concern of the lizard eating a bit of sponge..
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