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Old 07-08-2009, 04:03 PM
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Hi,

I'm about to venture in the world of gecko's I've purchased a setup from a local specialist reptile store who have been exceptionally helpful, i've a 3 month old crested gecko reserved there to collect once the temperature is stable.

I wanted to post some pics of my setup to see if people had any advice or saw any pitfalls.

I went for a 45 x 45 x 60cm ExoTerra.

I know its close to a window but the blinds are always closed in here because its in my study.


The tank has two large bits of bark crossing, one into the hot area, one the cold, a bark substrate, two silk plants and a vine branch.

The tank is heated by a lamp on a thermostat aiming for 26 degrees, in summer the room itself averages 23.

One thing i'm curious about is the food/water dish (for fruit mulch) should this be somewhere the gecko can get at from a branch, or will they crawl along the substrate to it, currently its below the bigger of the two branches.

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Old 07-08-2009, 04:13 PM
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looks very nice! is that the exo terra vine?

from first impressions, all i would say is:

- i cant see what substrate you have, but it looks like peat/soil of some kind. If your getting a baby i would start off with towels/tiles/carpet. although most tree dwelling geckos dont go on the ground they do go down there and its best to stay away from loose substrate at least until they are a bit bigger (IMO)

- that lamp you have up there, it looks like the exo terra lamp with the 80W infared in it? If so they can get really hot (i had one for my leo). depends what kinda gecko your getting but in my case for example, i have a crestie and this lamp will get it far too hot in there, and if you have it on a thermostat it will be turning on and off a lot. best to get a lower wattage if your aiming for a moderate temp in there (IMO).

- Also, if that is the 80W infared, i wouldnt have it on top of the grill at the back like you have it now, as it can get so hot it will melt away the polystyrene fake rock background which exo terras come with (i found this out when mine melted the top part of mine even when it was on a stand, let alone resting on the grill). so i would either bring it to the front, or direct it away from the background.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the comments.

Yes its exo terra vine as well, one piece is pinned into the rock backdrop the other piece secured in one of the bark pieces.

The substrate is orchid bark (i think thats what they called it) the store say its ok for a young gecko (i did query them on going with paper towels for first months) and that their specialist vet had recommended that.

I'm about to hang the heating light from the ceiling rather than leaving it directly on the mesh, i'll try and position it so its more tank central than towards the back.

The room temp is currently 24.5 (its pretty hot here today) and the tank is running at 26.6.

I think the bulb is 60 or 75, and yes its on a MicroClimate thermostat that has its sensor about 6 inches below the bulb.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:57 PM
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Looks fine to me

Although i find heatmats better for cresties than bulbs.
Also being near the window makes no difference if the temperature is controlled.

Regarding where the food and water is, its normally preferable to put it next to or under something so the crestie feels secure whilst eating. But its no major issue.

I would also use paper towel for substrate, its better to be safe than sorry IMO.

But what you have now is absolutely fine for the crestie, thats the mane thing.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:22 PM
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I would also use paper towel for substrate, its better to be safe than sorry IMO.
Agreed. That's what I used when mine were babies. As for food bowls none of mine have any problems eating out in the open from a bowl on the floor but for a nervous animal just pop the bowl under a hide or something for security. I don't use any heating for mine but they are in my reptile room which can get pretty hot.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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For the paper towel thing, how long do you keep them on paper towels, i'd like the setup to be as natural as possible.

Is it possible to just put the paper towel over the substrate ?

I did ask at the shop and they did say its down to opinion on paper towels or substrate but that they hadnt see any issues with the material they've sold me.

And they are a specialist reptile shop who really seemed to know there stuff and were very helpful, the cresties are bred by their own staff.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:33 PM
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For the paper towel thing, how long do you keep them on paper towels, i'd like the setup to be as natural as possible.

Is it possible to just put the paper towel over the substrate ?

I did ask at the shop and they did say its down to opinion on paper towels or substrate but that they hadnt see any issues with the material they've sold me.

And they are a specialist reptile shop who really seemed to know there stuff and were very helpful, the cresties are bred by their own staff.
I would say use paper towels for as long as possible, as loose substrate can cause impactation and the bigger the crestie the less likely this will happen.

I personally keep them on paper towel for all there life, i have used other substrate but the only one i feel is safe is sphagnum moss, as its easier to digest than other hard substrates if swallowed.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:42 PM
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That set up looks great for an adult crestie. However, you say that the one that you're getting is only three months, in which case that viv might actually be too big for it (young cresties can become easily stressed in large vivs). Personally, I'd keep a hatchling / young juvie crestie in a faunarium or smaller viv (e.g. the 30cm x 30cm x 30cm exo terra) until it's grown on a bit. And, has already been suggested, I'd keep it on kitchen towel until it's older too. To be honest, you really don't need the light at the moment either; room temperatures of 23C are fine for cresties.
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