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Old 15-06-2007, 10:09 AM
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I'm having real problems keeping the viv humid enough for our panther chameleon, we spray him twice a day (before and after work) but this doesn't last very long and quickly drys out. We have bought a humidity sensor but to be honest we are really not sure what the percentage should be as have read loads of conflicting info.
i'm sure we need some kind of misting system and i have read threads on here but i am still unsure of what is best to use - anyone help? Is there a good product to buy? can we home-make something?
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Old 15-06-2007, 01:56 PM
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i dont have chams but iv read people just get a plastic cup or two and get a pin and poke a hole in the bottom, fill with water and leave it to drip all day
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you just have to put water into the air. show me your setup. i can help if no one else can. the ventilation is the key. you want the humdity IN the cage so variables change the equation



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for my cham i brought an exo tetra water fall which does a good job. but you'll never be able to keep the humidity really high i aimed for about 85%rh (relative humidity) as our climate is to cold and out side air temp drags down that of the viv's.
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Old 15-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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We have one of those waterfalls and a dripper system as well but i still can't get the humidity to be consistantly over 50-55% - the viv is about 1.7m tall and 1m deep and wide with the waterfall at the bottom (its so heavy we can't get it higher up) and the dripper is three quarters of the way up, there are 3 ventilation holes with mesh over at the top and a square grid with 8 smaller holes on either side in the middle - any suggestions??!!
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ok. here's what i've done. i've shared this before and some thought it was silly. firstly, only partially ventilate the cage. you want ventalation but you have to balance it with water vapor loss. a small, submersible aquarium heater placed in a jar of water, placed on the floor of the cage provides truly gaseous ambient humidity. with humidity, we're talking relative humidity to temp. warmer air holds more moister. it is a self correcting system to me because when the temp drops, the heater kicks on. i set mine on 86F and no wonder my brb's and emeralds do well. my baby gtp seems to like it. it's just something i invented myself and it works for me. there may be better solutions, but this works for me. remember, you want warm, humid air. not cold damp air. i always thought my invention was slightly genius, but hey, i'm old school and used to figuring out solutions for myself. anyone seeing some problems with my technique, i'd be happy to hear about it. maybe i overlooked something. just my advice. for whatever it's worth.



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Old 15-06-2007, 08:58 PM
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That sounds like a good idea, think we will try it out-i've looked on ebay and the heaters come in lots of different watt types, what watt(?!) do you use?
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Old 15-06-2007, 09:36 PM
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Habu: Thats a good idea and will indeed work very well. nice thinking batman..

However. If you have live plants/spray twice a day and have a dripper. There is no way that you do not have it humid enough. I only spray all my panthers once a day and it does the job. Like i have said before and will again don't worry hugely about how humid it is! If you can provide enough water this will more than compensate for any drop in humidity.

When spraying use hot water which will come out warm from a sprayer the humidity will shoot up to about 80% for an hour or so then drop to about 50/60%. this is fine! In fact it mirrors the madagascan climate as the humidity rises after it rains then levels out...

Waterfalls are horrible things and can often do more harm then good...
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Habu: Thats a good idea and will indeed work very well. nice thinking batman..

However. If you have live plants/spray twice a day and have a dripper. There is no way that you do not have it humid enough. I only spray all my panthers once a day and it does the job. Like i have said before and will again don't worry hugely about how humid it is! If you can provide enough water this will more than compensate for any drop in humidity.

When spraying use hot water which will come out warm from a sprayer the humidity will shoot up to about 80% for an hour or so then drop to about 50/60%. this is fine! In fact it mirrors the madagascan climate as the humidity rises after it rains then levels out...

Waterfalls are horrible things and can often do more harm then good...
I must say - i'm starting to agree with you, we clean the waterfall out quite often but it still amazes me what ends up in there..... we have decided to take it out. i really thought that 50% was too low so its good to get the reassurance - thanks! Will replace the waterfall with the aquarium idea and see what happens....
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i crank my heaters all the way up. they rarely go past 86f. so they can't get too hot. a 50 watt works in a 10 gallon tank, but a 100 works well in a plastic water tub. you'll always have warm water and good evaporate. and if they fail nowadays, they always fail in the off position so they won't go haywire and overheat things. just never remove it with the power on or place it in the water turned on. they will crack. nothing wrong with a heated swimming pool for your herps.



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