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Old 12-01-2012, 12:48 PM
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Ok this is a last ditch attempt have been searching for ages, looking for a Male - Red Stripe Leopard Gecko.

If it was Bell or Eclipse or het for either would be a bonus.

Anyone ideas where i can get one from, or who.

I'm not loving the idea of paying TUG £210 for a Bell Red Stripe but if i have no other choice........need alternatives though first.

help appreciated.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:17 PM
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Ok this is a last ditch attempt have been searching for ages, looking for a Male - Red Stripe Leopard Gecko.

If it was Bell or Eclipse or het for either would be a bonus.

Anyone ideas where i can get one from, or who.

I'm not loving the idea of paying TUG £210 for a Bell Red Stripe but if i have no other choice........need alternatives though first.

help appreciated.
Firstly... Good luck.
Secondly... The ones on TUG's website aren't really Red Stripes.
The Bells ones are Tangerine Bells Reverse Stripes, but look like they have come from a RADAR project, so probably wouldn't give the results you wanted.

This male is a red stripe.... Red Stripe 100% Het Bell Albino | The Urban Gecko

Problem with Red Stripes is....
The best Red Stripe x The best Red Stripe, can result in normal looking geckos.
I would say these are one of the hardest morphs to consistently reproduce, and by not having two good examples you will minimise your chances drastically.

Steve Sykes and JMG have some of the best consistently produced Red Stripes around, and even then they produce some awful examples
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Cool beans bit of a project as i currently have a female Red Stripe Bell Albino and a Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR

so was looking to breed a single male to both for Red Stripe Project and a RADAR project as the offspring would be
Bell Albinos het RADAR and
Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR

sell on the Snows and breed back the Bell Albinos het RADAR back to her for RADAR's

but as you said Red Stripes are difficult to produce think i'd be better of picking up a Normal Red Stripe and breeding to our Red Stripe Bell Albino.

Then breeding the Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR to my Normal male to filter out the Snows or get a Bell Albino.

So i'm thinking get a Red Stripe (m) for
Red Stripe (m) x Red Stripe Bell Albino (f) = Red Stripes

and a Normal or Bell Albino (m) x Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR =
Jungle? Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR (sell on)
Jungle? Bell Albino het RADAR

i am missing some of the genetics but i think i'm right.

Ideas or is there a better way.
Done a lot of reading on this but first time breeding.
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In fact instead of a Bell Albino would i be better of getting an Eclipse (het RADAR) as the outcomes would be more definitive.

either normal het both
Bell het RADAR
Eclipse het RADAR
and RADAR
and the Snows
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Ok this is a last ditch attempt have been searching for ages, looking for a Male - Red Stripe Leopard Gecko.

If it was Bell or Eclipse or het for either would be a bonus.

Anyone ideas where i can get one from, or who.

I'm not loving the idea of paying TUG £210 for a Bell Red Stripe but if i have no other choice........need alternatives though first.

help appreciated.
I have seen some advertiseed on urbangecko.com...however, like you say, they are a little pricey.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:54 PM
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Cool beans bit of a project as i currently have a female Red Stripe Bell Albino and a Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR

so was looking to breed a single male to both for Red Stripe Project and a RADAR project as the offspring would be
Bell Albinos het RADAR and
Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR

sell on the Snows and breed back the Bell Albinos het RADAR back to her for RADAR's

but as you said Red Stripes are difficult to produce think i'd be better of picking up a Normal Red Stripe and breeding to our Red Stripe Bell Albino.

Then breeding the Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR to my Normal male to filter out the Snows or get a Bell Albino.

So i'm thinking get a Red Stripe (m) for
Red Stripe (m) x Red Stripe Bell Albino (f) = Red Stripes

and a Normal or Bell Albino (m) x Jungle Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR =
Jungle? Mack Snow Bell Albino het RADAR (sell on)
Jungle? Bell Albino het RADAR

i am missing some of the genetics but i think i'm right.

Ideas or is there a better way.
Done a lot of reading on this but first time breeding.
First off, unless you paired with another het radar, the babies would only be poss het radar. half of them would get the eclipse het but you wouldn't know which half had it.

Second. if you had mack bell het eclipse why would you sell them and keep normal bell het radars? 2 mack bell het eclipse could get you a bell super snow eclipse Fair enough if that's not what you're going for. Just a suggestion.
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Just to be annoying i have a male red stripe bell albino het RADAR and a female red stripe albino, i also have a red stripe female all of which will be going towards my lovely projects this season

But on a serious note mate, it might be a bit later on in the year that you'd of hoped, but i'd prob be able to sort out some of the babies for a swap or something just to diversify my gene pool and blood lines

good luck either way mate
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het this and het that...man, I have never got my head around all of that and I admire anyone who can. My approach is really more of 'these two leos have pretty patterns...I wonder what will come out if they breed?' It's very technical as you can tell.
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I hope you manage to get hold of your stripes. Not really my cup of tea but pretty all the same.

As for Andy84: Leopard gecko genetics are fairly east to understand once you start studying them. I have been for two years and am fairly ok with them now. Still need a fair ammount of studying them, but I feel up to the task of starting my first breeding project.
The problem with "I'll breed this pretty one to this pretty one." is that you don't know if they have dominant, co dominant or recessive genes. Breeding a Tremper albino patternless to a normal for example would be a waste of a gecko. Tremper and patternless are both recessive genes, so unless your normal was carrying the gene from it's parent (het) you would simply get normals, which are hard to shift at the best of times.
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Second. if you had mack bell het eclipse why would you sell them and keep normal bell het radars? 2 mack bell het eclipse could get you a bell super snow eclipse Fair enough if that's not what you're going for. Just a suggestion.
I'm quite liking this idea

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Just to be annoying i have a male red stripe bell albino het RADAR and a female red stripe albino, i also have a red stripe female all of which will be going towards my lovely projects this season



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But on a serious note mate, it might be a bit later on in the year that you'd of hoped, but i'd prob be able to sort out some of the babies for a swap or something just to diversify my gene pool and blood lines

good luck either way mate
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