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Old 01-07-2009, 11:32 PM
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I have seen a couple of times now people saying they are going to stop feeding crickets as they are too much hassle. One of these was feeding a baby beardie.
I understand babies need 80% bugs to 20%veg.
I also hear that mealworms are not ok too much bone.
So, finally to my question, what is the alternative to feeding crickets?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:34 PM
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depending on the size of the baby beardie, locusts might be able to be used.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:40 PM
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dubia roaches are supposedly the best live food.

They have the highest protein to fat ratio and they eat pretty much anything so can be gut loaded with all the veg you would normally feed a beardie.

Mine should be delivered tomoz, so i'll let you know if my beardie liked them.

Here we go found the protein to fat info.

Species - Protein / Fat / Ratio
Dubia Roaches - 36% / 7% - 5.2 to 1 ratio
Mealworms - 10% / 14% - 0.7 to 1 ratio
Crickets - 12.9% / 6.25% - 2.06 to 1 ratio
Locusts - 40% / 20% - 2.0 to 1 ratio

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Old 02-07-2009, 12:20 AM
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dubia roaches are supposedly the best live food.

They have the highest protein to fat ratio and they eat pretty much anything so can be gut loaded with all the veg you would normally feed a beardie.

Mine should be delivered tomoz, so i'll let you know if my beardie liked them.

Here we go found the protein to fat info.

Species - Protein / Fat / Ratio
Dubia Roaches - 36% / 7% - 5.2 to 1 ratio
Mealworms - 10% / 14% - 0.7 to 1 ratio
Crickets - 12.9% / 6.25% - 2.06 to 1 ratio
Locusts - 40% / 20% - 2.0 to 1 ratio

Andi
this info is spot on go dubia both mine love them have being feeding the very small ones out of my colony they look like woodlice when there small they dont jump or bite your bd wen there sleeping great feeder insect buy dubia
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this info is spot on go dubia both mine love them have being feeding the very small ones out of my colony they look like woodlice when there small they dont jump or bite your bd wen there sleeping great feeder insect buy dubia
Ta very much, spend most of a day looking up university research results to find that lot out.

Also dubia's can't climb smooth surfaces, so much less chance of escapees.

If mine and the brother in laws will take them we will be setting up a colony.

What would you reccomend storing them in?? a rub? if so what size? i can't really find any specific info on what to keep them in.

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Old 02-07-2009, 12:46 AM
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try locust, works a treat with my beardie, or you could look at some caresheets on feeding, here's a link,
Bearded Dragon Care Sheet
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:47 AM
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Thank you this is soooo helpful.
Would dubia roaches be small enough for a baby ?
and does anyone know whether all worms are as bad as mealies?
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Thank you this is soooo helpful.
Would dubia roaches be small enough for a baby ?
and does anyone know whether all worms are as bad as mealies?
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you can buy small, medium & large dubia's.

i get some small ones tomoz (well later today), depending on royal fail. i'll check the size of them and see if my 8 week old beardie can eat them and post back.

No idea about worms i've never really looked into them, just looked into crickets, locusts and dubia's.

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Old 02-07-2009, 01:08 AM
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my bds wer 6wks when i got them i just gave hem the small ones as long as there no bigger than the gap between there eyes u wil b fine i keep my colony in an old fishtank its 2ft sq with card around to black it out just keep it on top of my viv wer ceramic bulb is endless food supply as long as you dnt feed off them to soon how old is your bd?
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Thank you this is soooo helpful.
Would dubia roaches be small enough for a baby ?
and does anyone know whether all worms are as bad as mealies?
Thanks
I believe silk worms and phoenix worms are good for beardies - very pricy tho. I would go with the roaches and locust as staples.
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