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Old 17-07-2009, 09:23 PM
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I decided it was about time i had a really good rant about people buying reps and inverts on the spur of the moment.

Lately ive seen and heard of more and more dead lizards and dead snakes and tarantulas because people spend about 20minutes looking at a couple of caresheets on the web!

These animals are NOT dogs you can't just stick them in a tank with some substrate or sand and a waterbowl then come on RFUK asking for help because your lizard is sick heres an answer to your question BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING! i am not taking the piss out of new keepers in any way at all but im tired of telling people to research before they buy its totally irrasponsible of them and the pet shops and breeders selling them, i brought couple reps from a pet shop and the guy asked me absolutly nothing about my knowlage of the reps i was buying didnt ask to see id didn't take my contact details just handed them over luckly ive got exotic pets coming out of my ears and know what im doing but who's to say the next person that went in there wasn't a complete novice who thought it would be fun to get a reptile without ever even holding one! These creatures can be difficult to care for some of them get MASSIVE (and eat your kids hehe) and some of them are just insanely aggressive!!!

i also don't think reps are good pets for kids as so many people seem to think dont have your 8year old child looking after a tokay gecko or a green iguana are you insane get the sprog a goldfish instead!!

anyway enough of my moaning im not really grumpy just gets me angry to think how many animals are getting neglected and mistreated though ignorance and stupidity.

I and most experianced keepers are allways happy to help new owners and eachother with anything and everything we can as long as people just read the books, ask owners, JOIN HERP AND EXOTIC PET CLUBS, surf the web and tear this forum appart getting as much info as they can, if you no as much as you can before you get your pet its most likely to be a very happy healthy animal its the best hobby to have in the world! (a bit expensive though lol)

Sorry to rant on so much my intention is not to scare people away from this forum because it is amazing i just want people to think about what they are doing =)



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Old 17-07-2009, 09:35 PM
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I concur with you 100%, too many times have I seen people walking into a small pet shop and taking absolutely lousy advice from the staff before buying a totally unsuitable set-up and the animal on the same day. A few days later the same people walk into the store asking for help when their Leopard gecko has an impacted rectum due to sitting on calci sand.

I think one of the main problems is that people don't exactly know where to start, however with such as wealth of information around the internet it is very easy for newcomers to obtain excellent, high-quality advice from forums such as RFUK.
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Old 17-07-2009, 09:39 PM
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Old 17-07-2009, 09:45 PM
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Deep down everyone buying rep's know this.

Its not because their new its because their LAZY.

Both the parents and the kids fault.
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Old 17-07-2009, 09:51 PM
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I totally agree pleccy it happens too often and its hearbreaking poor little lizards most of the set up pics posted on the newbie forum by novices have sand in them because the guy behind the counter in the shop said it would be perfect! this site really is amazing i myself have learnt so much on here still learning all the time it just shows how powerful the net is =p

Why ask some goon in a pet shop for advice when you can talk to thousands of people on this forum that actually know what they are talking about and want to help not just get rid of one of the animals they can't look after in their shop! ^^
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i think its fair to say i mean ive had my beardies now for 2 weeks but have been looking into this since last november ive been browsing this forum since then and have read bearded dragons in captivity (allen repashy, one of the typical breeder series but a great read)

cover to cover a hundred times over as well as visiting many different shops and specialist breeders.

i know reading can only give you so much hence me asking questions on here and you do needs advice from experianced keepers, there are just some things you wouldnt know other wise.

hearing all the horror stories out there should be enough to get people to atleast think twice or really think do they have the time money and are willing to put the effort in its a sad waiste that could easily be avoided.

(i hope my say counts as i am a noob but to be fair an animals an animal and sadly some people just dont care as much as others.)
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:02 PM
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I agree Tottaly. When I got my first Royal about a year back I paid the price for not doing my research, I didn't have a Thermostat and i didn't know how help snakes shed, I still feel very guilty about a snake dying in my hands. The rep shop didn't give me any advice and I haven't been since.
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:10 PM
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It's a shame that theres not more people out there like you it is a long time to do research hehe, most people see a rep or an invert somewere and think ooh i like it i want one and can't wait they are impatient and selfish but i will say most of us make a couple mistakes when starting out in the hobby and people shouldn't be afraid to say so and ask for help good luck with your beardies!! =D

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i think its fair to say i mean ive had my beardies now for 2 weeks but have been looking into this since last november ive been browsing this forum since then and have read bearded dragons in captivity (allen repashy, one of the typical breeder series but a great read)

cover to cover a hundred times over as well as visiting many different shops and specialist breeders.

i know reading can only give you so much hence me asking questions on here and you do needs advice from experianced keepers, there are just some things you wouldnt know other wise.

hearing all the horror stories out there should be enough to get people to atleast think twice or really think do they have the time money and are willing to put the effort in its a sad waiste that could easily be avoided.

(i hope my say counts as i am a noob but to be fair an animals an animal and sadly some people just dont care as much as others.)
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It's a shame that theres not more people out there like you it is a long time to do research hehe, most people see a rep or an invert somewere and think ooh i like it i want one and can't wait they are impatient and selfish but i will say most of us make a couple mistakes when starting out in the hobby and people shouldn't be afraid to say so and ask for help good luck with your beardies!! =D
cheers and i wish i could of had them sooner as money was the problem but as for irony iv had them two weeks now and the firm i worked for went under! ah well
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:20 PM
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awww bless your heart! sorry to hear about your erm irony i hope things work out for you !!

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cheers and i wish i could of had them sooner as money was the problem but as for irony iv had them two weeks now and the firm i worked for went under! ah well
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