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Old 20-01-2013, 08:02 PM
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Unhappy Sick baby beardie :(

Hi guys, first post here.

My beardie young, not sure how young, body is about 7cm long excluding head and tail. Could be a boy or a girl too, but either way, it's called Steve.

I got a new beardie last week (14th Jan) and bought the pets at home £200 4ft viv with shelves and a starter kit (heat lamp, UV lights etc) and set it up and popped him in. Everything went well for the first few days with Steve and the temps/timings. The temp gradient is roughly 31Cmin and 38Cmax in the hot end and a steady 24/25C in the cold end. With it dropping to about 15/16C at night.

Problem is, he now sits on the bark under the heat lamp all day and all night (lamp off at night) and doesnt move, not even for food. I havent seen him bathe/drink since i got him either. He usually either sleeps all day, or sits with one eye open and one shut. He doesnt react to people coming in the room, and i have touched him before without him realising I was in his viv despite me not being sneaky at all. He sleeps or at least is inactive all day.

Crickets literally walk on top of him and he doesnt even flinch or look at them all day. He barely moves all day and I'm worried about him and can't really take him out to a reptile shop or vet or anything because of the weather. Any advice at all?

Appreciate it, Pete

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Old 20-01-2013, 08:20 PM
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I dont keep beardies but I keep snakes.

Have you got a picture of the setup?
What are you using to heat the viv, bulb? ceramic?
is it on a thermostat (THIS IS CRUCIAL)
have you got a UV, if so what percentage, i believe UV is used 12hrs a day, so on in day, off at night
What thermometer are you using (PLEASE DONT SAY A DIAL ONE, they can be up to 25c out!!!)
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:24 PM
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Sorry about all the questions but these are critical to help find out whats wrong with Steve.

It could be something as simple as it is getting used to his new setup. My snakes when i first got them they didnt eat for a week, two weeks while they were getting used to a new house, a lot of people say that after a week or so they will start acting more normal.

Beardies need a high UV % i believe and anything not high enough can possibly cause stress.

You said pets at home....a lot of people on here dont really like them as i have seen lol, and a lot of pet shops give you wrong information about how to care for your animals
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:26 PM
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Also beardies eat vegetation as well so try some soft fruits or veg to try and tempt his appetite
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:28 PM
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Sorry only just seen the photos he is lifting up with his front legs and not laying there so i believe that is a good sign...it looks like he is trying to bask or catch UV or something???

The set up dont look that bad actually, but my main questions, are you using a thermostat and what thermometers are you using
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:29 PM
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Just uploaded some pictures from facebook, let me know if you cant see them or whatever.

No thermostat for heat lamp, I have the mains switch for both the heat and UV lights on for 14hrs/day. Bulb is 100w daylight basking bulb.
2 UV bulbs running the length of the viv, one is 10.0, the other is 2.0. Both 30w, both UVB.
Two digital thermometers too, tested accurately against a mercury thermometer.

He looks like he is basking, but he doesnt move at all all day, literally have to move him myself. He has cress and sort of mushed up apple without the skin, both calcium dusted lightly. Im only finding it odd because of the dragons he was with in the pet shop were all moving around and were lively, this guy just isnt at all. Odd for something so young
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:34 PM
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I read in another forum that they sometimes close one eye because the UV light is too strong for them, do you think this could be true?
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:34 PM
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Hmmm it just seems that he is trying to get more heat...I would still put a thermostat on the heat bulb (dimming thermostat) as a just in case. I dont bother with a night gradient on any of my tanks, for example one of them is set to 32C, is 32.3C during the day and at night drops max to 31..8C

Do you dust your crickets with vitamins, a multi vitamin powder with calcium in is vital and the UVB gives the beardie D3 to be able to absorb that calcium. No vitamin powder = sickly unhealthy beardie in the long run.

Someone who keeps beardies should help you but i thought i would try help and stick my oar in

good on the digital thermometers
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:36 PM
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UVB being too strong could be a possibility, maybe i would just have the 10.0 in. Have the heat bulb on 24/7 set to ambient hot end temperature...so about 100-110F and the UVB on for 12hrs
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:36 PM
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Thanks very much my friend! I'll give it a go for a few days and see what happens I guess!
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