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Old 26-03-2012, 03:58 PM
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thats your opinion from what iv seen i disagree but each to there own
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Old 26-03-2012, 04:08 PM
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if one of my dogs snaps at me... they get their smacked...

and i'd dare them to do it again...

bite=smacked...

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Old 26-03-2012, 04:20 PM
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if one of my dogs snaps at me... they get their smacked...

and i'd dare them to do it again...

bite=smacked...

they learn quickly...
Why do they snap at you though? could be fear from the thought of being smacked...
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Old 26-03-2012, 04:24 PM
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all your teaching it is to fear people, so it will either be shy and cowardly...then one day rip your throat out cus its had enough, or it will be human agressive.

Devi...what would you say this was?
my bros g/f's dad took his english bull terrier to a EBT walkathon... his dog walked through a crowd of over 20 dogs headbutting them all to make way for him and stood in the centre happy with himself.... thats pack status to me. if one got to close he would headbutt it away, once the walking started he was fine and playing with them...but when it ended...same thing he butted them all out the way to make himself seen in the centre. hes not dog agressive etc he lives with other dogs...and he is the boss at home to.
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Old 26-03-2012, 04:36 PM
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let a dog just get it's way and bite people at will?

my dogs don't bite... i can take their food away at anytime...

they know what will surely happen if they ever snap at anyone... all hell will break loose...and they will always lose...

my dogs aren't allowed to own anything...

my pup has tried to take my big dog's food while she was eating... and my big dog put her in place... but good... now she waits till the big dogs finishes... otherwise all hell will break loose from my big dog and she'll lose...

same with me... there are rules in my home... show aggression and serious aggression is what you'll get...


pretty simple... bite and you'll pay...



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Old 26-03-2012, 04:48 PM
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no there are other ways to disapline rather than smacking

it will work of course but the dog will fear you which im sure you dont want.
people prefer to be respected than feared...the ones who are feared usually end up dead because fear pushes people to act in ways they normally wouldnt
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This is not from fear,its testing its owners,pushing its luck,like habu said,the very first time it showed agression it should have been put in its place.I think there are dog behaviourist with the same attitude as the "dont smack children " brigade.There is a massive difference from a smack to beating.My akitas live with children and other animals,when i give a command they should obey.If this was not the case because of their type i would have trouble on my hands.As i said before,they work you out.My dogs respect me,not fear me.Certain breeds of dogs don't suit certain people.
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Old 26-03-2012, 04:54 PM
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all your teaching it is to fear people, so it will either be shy and cowardly...then one day rip your throat out cus its had enough, or it will be human agressive.

Devi...what would you say this was?
my bros g/f's dad took his english bull terrier to a EBT walkathon... his dog walked through a crowd of over 20 dogs headbutting them all to make way for him and stood in the centre happy with himself.... thats pack status to me. if one got to close he would headbutt it away, once the walking started he was fine and playing with them...but when it ended...same thing he butted them all out the way to make himself seen in the centre. hes not dog agressive etc he lives with other dogs...and he is the boss at home to.
That's a badly behaved dog. Seriously who let's their dog be aggressive to every dog it meets and sees no issue in it? Would you let your child walk through a playground thumping every kid it saw? Of course not.
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let a dog just get it's way and bite people at will?
Well, no... but, if you don't smack your dogs then maybe they'll stop snapping at you.
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this is turning into such an interesting thread as there are two lines of thought going on and each kind of contradicts the other BUT each has people who advocate it as having worked for them.
My dad was in the school of thought that bobber and beebee are.. a dog should respect and obey a human straight away... he used a smack as a means of punishment...
now according to him, that dog was the best dog he ever owned... it wouldnt touch its food unless told to, it dodnt move unless told to, etc...
i am not sure what line i would follow to be honest...
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