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Old 31-08-2014, 01:26 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm new to this site and thought I'd make a post sharing my experience so far keeping our sliders.
Me and my partner inherited two YBS at the beginning of this year after one of her family members passed away. It was a hard time and someone had to take them on!
They were tiny at the time and we didn't even know the breed! Then of course came the shock of how quickly they were growing and after some research I found out their breed and how big they can get! *shock*
They quickly outgrew their environment so we saved and have just got ourselves a 5 foot custom made tank!
We moved them into their new home on Saturday and my girlfriend caved and let me get some tank mates (2x common musk) on Sunday which are amazing!

I do have some questions about the musks if anyone can help me? I have been feeding the sliders on King British daily (which I now realise was too much and am starting to feed them every other day) however the musks didn't seem to realise the food was there when I fed them yesterday. I have read that some musks refuse to eat floating food so can someone recommend another foot type of they continue to not take it?

Thanks for listening guys and thanks in advance for the help
If anyone would like to see some pics I'll gladly put some up if someone can explain how to lol
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Old 31-08-2014, 01:54 PM
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I use Hikari turtle sticks for my musks and slider without any issue. You could try Hikari sinking carnivore pellets for your musks. My musks were a little fussy to start with but a bit of tough love was all that was needed.

Generally Hikari and reptomin are the pellet most keepers here use. I found the king british had far too much brine shrimp in it.
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Old 31-08-2014, 02:06 PM
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I may look at changing to reptomin once my current stock of king brittish runs out then! I'm assuming the musks are still unsettled in their new environment so far and that's why they're quite inactive and not eating so far.
Are the sinking pellets the ones that seem to be for fish? Just so I don't order the wrong ones!
Thanks for the help
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Old 31-08-2014, 02:10 PM
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hikari-Tropi.../dp/B00025JZBI Thats what I have used in the past. King british to to reiterate is not a very healthy diet for them as it contains far too much brine shrimp which is best used as a treat rather than a staple.

I've just realised you are keeping them together which to be honest is not great.

Musks are bottom walkers and I'm going to assume much smaller than your sliders which will mean they will be possibly scared of them as they are much larger. Musks do best in shallow water where sliders do not.

Musks are also very aggressive turtles that do not tolerate each other in some cases and are even less tolerante of other species.
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Old 31-08-2014, 02:47 PM
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I spoke to a really knowledgeable specialist shop who advised that it's best to get some species that live in different niches as that way they won't bother each other. So far they are intrigued by each other but have no territory issues which is a good start. The musks started to venture out more yesterday and we are keeping a close eye on them.
We also have the old tank kept to hand in case anything happens.
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Old 31-08-2014, 02:53 PM
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It's very difficult to achieve decent conditions for both of those species in an aquarium. A pond is a different matter all together.

I would separate the musks from the sliders.

Musks for instance only really require 7 inches of water as adults and plenty of climbing opportunity to reach the surface as they are not strong swimmers. Sliders on the other hand require water measured in feet as they get older.

Obviously I'm no specialist and will never claim to be either, but I'm guessing they are the same specialist shop that have just sold you the turtles.
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Old 31-08-2014, 03:51 PM
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Agree with what supatips has said.

Out of all our turtles it is the Musks that are the most intolerant of one another - even the females.

Plus, sorry to repeat it for those that already have read my posts previously, but we had a male Musk that lived happily with young male Sliders both indoors over the winter, and outdoors over the summer. He basked regularly with them and all was harmonious until one day we found him mating one of the male Sliders. Not a pleasant experience for anyone at all, but no harm was done probably because we caught it in time.

Musks do indeed have a voracious bite.

They really would be better off separated from the Sliders for the many reasons given above.

Presumably the tank has no lid, no gravel and a good external filter?
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Old 31-08-2014, 06:03 PM
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The shop isn't actually where we got them from as he wasn't able to source them at that moment and only had hatchlings in (I already knew not to mix those but he also insisted we didnt). He was very knowledgeable about all turtles and was able to answer any questions we had.
The advice he gave was to monitor them carefully but as long as there are plenty of places for the musks to hide away and a large amount of space he has housed them before with no issues.
The tank is especially made for them so no lid. I'm using an Eheim 2217 with biological and mechanical filtration. We are using slate chips as substrate as they seem to like having something to dig through. We have also added some aquatic plants, although they didn't last 5 minutes before they were eaten but at least they add some variety to their diet!
We are keeping a close eye on them and if there are any issues we will separate them straight away
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