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Old 02-03-2020, 12:35 PM
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hi guys, I have 3 juvenile torts that I'd like to offer to a good home for free. I know when you sell them you need all of the licensing, but my understanding is that if no money exchanges hands it's not required? Would love your thoughts on if I've interpreted this correctly! Thanks!
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:01 PM
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hi guys, I have 3 juvenile torts that I'd like to offer to a good home for free. I know when you sell them you need all of the licensing, but my understanding is that if no money exchanges hands it's not required? Would love your thoughts on if I've interpreted this correctly! Thanks!
To my knowledge you need no license to sell
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hi guys, I have 3 juvenile torts that I'd like to offer to a good home for free. I know when you sell them you need all of the licensing, but my understanding is that if no money exchanges hands it's not required? Would love your thoughts on if I've interpreted this correctly! Thanks!
Depends on the species:0)
Hermans, graecas, marginata, all need paperwork to sell.
Horsfields you dont need paperwork to sell:0)
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:10 PM
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To my knowledge you need no license to sell

You don’t need a license but for Annexe ll specimens you do need valid article 10 certs along with microchip details. If they’re not chipped then it’s still illegal to sell them over 6cms anyway without changing paperwork via Animal Health/Cites,
so bottom line, the original poster is correct. If you give the species, we can tell you what your situation is.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:34 AM
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You don’t need a license but for Annexe ll specimens you do need valid article 10 certs along with microchip details. If they’re not chipped then it’s still illegal to sell them over 6cms anyway without changing paperwork via Animal Health/Cites,
so bottom line, the original poster is correct.
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You don’t need a license but for Annexe ll specimens you do need valid article 10 certs along with microchip details. If they’re not chipped then it’s still illegal to sell them over 6cms anyway without changing paperwork via Animal Health/Cites,
so bottom line, the original poster is correct. If you give the species, we can tell you what your situation is.
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Depends on the species:0)
Hermans, graecas, marginata, all need paperwork to sell.
Horsfields you dont need paperwork to sell:0)

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Old 03-03-2020, 12:31 PM
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You don’t need a license but for Annexe ll specimens you do need valid article 10 certs along with microchip details. If they’re not chipped then it’s still illegal to sell them over 6cms anyway without changing paperwork via Animal Health/Cites,
so bottom line, the original poster is correct.
Annex B/Appendix II do not require an A10. A10s are for Annex A/Appendix I species.

In terms of gifting Annex A, there is an form on the DEFRA site to use, confirming that they have been gifted.
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Old 03-03-2020, 10:39 PM
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Annex B/Appendix II do not require an A10. A10s are for Annex A/Appendix I species.

In terms of gifting Annex A, there is an form on the DEFRA site to use, confirming that they have been gifted.
Yes typo, sorry. As mentioned previously, gifting is fine.
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Old 04-03-2020, 09:48 PM
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Yes typo, sorry. As mentioned previously, gifting is fine.
Thought as such!
I didn't realise that DEFRA had published a Gifting Certificate, it's certainly worth using. It will also help the new owner if they then need to apply for an A10.
I found it completely by accident!
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