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Old 07-01-2020, 06:49 PM
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OK lets put the myth about Royals not liking large enclosures to bed. Royals will do fine in the same size room enclosure a fully grown retic would be housed in. The myth stems from commercial breeders who were simply justifying the rack'em stack'em method used to house them.

But, they need to feel secure, and in a dark warm place, which is why multiple hides are a must for this species (and most species to be honest). In the wild they will spend most of their day down burrows, where its warm, dark and humid. In captivity we replicate that by using hides, or placing the snakes in rack system. However where rack systems fail is that they restrict the snakes natural behaviour of coming out of the hide at dusk and exploring / hunting. Place the royal in a walk in vivarium with a dozen or so hides across the thermal gradient and you won't see it in daylight hours. But once the lights go out that snake will explore all the are available, before returning to a hide at dawn.
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:03 AM
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I do rather like the hognoses aswell. Will hopefully go see a few and then make a decision. Mex mex kingsnake (Lampropeltis mexicana mexicana), Grey-Banded King Snake ( Lampropeltis alterna) and Ruthven's Kingsnake (Lampropeltis ruthveni) being the three kingsnakes I am thinking about. They seem to stay around the 3-4ft mark as a maxium from what I have been reading. I personally don't like the idea of keeping a 4ft+ snake in a 3ft viv.
Thayer's kingsnake (Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri) are a nice small species
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:15 AM
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Curious to know if you’ve decided on what to keep yet?


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Old 08-01-2020, 10:38 AM
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Going to visit some bigger reptile shops over the weekend I think. It's all fine and well looking at all the lovely snakes online, but actually seeing them is different.
I saw a granite Mex Mex recently and it was a stunning little snake. My partner has always liked the looks of the Honduran milksnakes, and I've since found the milksnakes phase of the Mexican(?) Kingsnake is similar looking but smaller. So we are keen to see one of them too.
A local rescue has some stunning snakes for rehoming, however they are way to big for our space just now sadly.

Edit: The rescue does have some milksnakes for rehoming that may be suitable... however I cannot work out what species‎ they are, and so I'm not sure if they are likly to grow bigger than 4ft.
Can anyone ID them for me and give any advice?
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1890-chili
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1848-anna
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1842-reece
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Going to visit some bigger reptile shops over the weekend I think. It's all fine and well looking at all the lovely snakes online, but actually seeing them is different.
I saw a granite Mex Mex recently and it was a stunning little snake. My partner has always liked the looks of the Honduran milksnakes, and I've since found the milksnakes phase of the Mexican(?) Kingsnake is similar looking but smaller. So we are keen to see one of them too.
A local rescue has some stunning snakes for rehoming, however they are way to big for our space just now sadly.

Edit: The rescue does have some milksnakes for rehoming that may be suitable... however I cannot work out what species‎ they are, and so I'm not sure if they are likly to grow bigger than 4ft.
Can anyone ID them for me and give any advice?
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1890-chili
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1848-anna
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1842-reece
Reece is quite pretty
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Old 11-01-2020, 11:25 PM
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Going to visit some bigger reptile shops over the weekend I think. It's all fine and well looking at all the lovely snakes online, but actually seeing them is different.
I saw a granite Mex Mex recently and it was a stunning little snake. My partner has always liked the looks of the Honduran milksnakes, and I've since found the milksnakes phase of the Mexican(?) Kingsnake is similar looking but smaller. So we are keen to see one of them too.
A local rescue has some stunning snakes for rehoming, however they are way to big for our space just now sadly.

Edit: The rescue does have some milksnakes for rehoming that may be suitable... however I cannot work out what species‎ they are, and so I'm not sure if they are likly to grow bigger than 4ft.
Can anyone ID them for me and give any advice?
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1890-chili
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1848-anna
https://www.scottishspca.org/rehome-a-pet/1842-reece
Chili= Pueblan milk
Anna= Honduran milk
Reece= Sinaloan milk.
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Old 12-01-2020, 07:53 PM
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Chili= Pueblan milk
Anna= Honduran milk
Reece= Sinaloan milk.[/QUOTE]

Thanks very much for that!
I phoned the SSPCA and spoke to them about those three. All, they figured, would be currently or in the future need a bigger than 3ft Viv.

So we came home with this little fella ! Totally love him, he is so calm but interested in everything.
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Chili= Pueblan milk
Anna= Honduran milk
Reece= Sinaloan milk.
Thanks very much for that!
I phoned the SSPCA and spoke to them about those three. All, they figured, would be currently or in the future need a bigger than 3ft Viv.

So we came home with this little fella ! Totally love him, he is so calm but interested in everything.[/QUOTE]


What is he?
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:11 PM
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He's a granite Mex Mex Kingsnake.
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He's a granite Mex Mex Kingsnake.
Nice, thayer's kingsnake is a subspecies, my thayer's is a bit of a brat, you can take her out no problem, but once she decides you've held her for long enough she starts nomming on you to let you know she wants to go back to her viv
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