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Old 03-07-2015, 12:27 AM
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reptile keeping is human intervention from conception till death, to single out the cutting of a shell as mother natures domain is laughable.

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So it's July the 2nd and at least the topic has come up at the start of the month which leaves us to enjoy "vivs or racks", "royal breeding" and the "great british live feeding" debate for the rest of the month.

All I'd like to say is nature is a cruel bitch which is survival of the fittest at all times. Cut/don't cut it's your choice but some animals are never meant to hatch or be born and that includes us.

All this human intervention and compassion is down to us being the most intelligent animals on earth and feel the need to help the weak, dying or dead. We all watch Animal Planet, Discovery etc and see lion prides kill each other young and old, crocodiles eat young rhinos and endangered turtles getting gobbled up by birds and other predators. What do the scientists and naturalists do that watch and film this ....nothing, it's the animal kingdom.

Ethics, morals, greed, curiosity. Pick your reason to do it or not and change the subject.

And no I've never cut and lost a few in a clutch which were fertile and looked in the eggs after to find tiny under-developed animals inside. I'm not saying don't be upset etc but it's not always meant to be even with all the will in the world and tons of modern technology to aid us.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:32 AM
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I'm not out for an argument. It was meant to point out what happens inside the egg is uncontrollable.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:35 AM
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its almost completely controllable, its not a mystery what happens in there.

mummy and daddy snakes fall in lust - cell division - baby snake, that u have to support its entire life. just like humans really.

no argument from me either

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I'm not out for an argument. It was meant to point out what happens inside the egg is uncontrollable.
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