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Old 06-07-2011, 09:09 AM
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I think Royals are beautiful looking snakes but I think it's just their fasting and not feeding however, having said that the more I read peoples posts the more am like well possibly.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:21 AM
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Problem is all snakes can fast so I donít really see that as a bad point regarding royals

just at certain times of the year you offer food less frequently I think generally its the keepers that have the wrong idea on how much or how often they should be eating


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Old 06-07-2011, 09:23 AM
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ive got a few royals and i love them to pieces wouldnt trade em for the world and i can easily see why everyone wants them for the same reasons everyone has already mentioned, i dont see how u can say they are boring though??

i personally would love to have a burm along with the royals but i just dont have the room, and since royals are so boring what do burms and retics do that is any different?
the only thing i can see is the size? maybe your thinking more of showing your snake off? but then a spectacular morph of royal would do the same?
and at least when the royal is full grown you could still get it out and show people on your own, when your burm gets around 13-15ft maybe more you'll soon get bored of dragging that out the enclosure to show people.

believe me i love burms and royals and yes i love all the morphs(well most) but i keep hearing these stupid comments saying "i dont see the fascination with royals" well i dont see the god damn fascination with corns(not to offend anyone here just down to personally tastes) i think they are the most annoying snakes around they dont have the full bodied python look which i think a snake should look like and they are to fidgity.
and personally i dont like boas never been a fan, retics are ok but wouldnt go out of my way to have one.

so basically it comes down to personal choice, but as for people keep posting stuff like this i think i might just start a post saying "why the fascination with corns" and have a moan about those morphs and how common and boring they are....

there rant over lol
sorry if i offended anyone your entitled to keep whatever you want and i was just stating my opinion like a few people keep doing about ball pythons.
so personally i love my balls
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:34 AM
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I'm trying to be objective to this one, despite (lets be honest here) I much prefer royals over most other pythons.
1 - Space. Royals on average require no more than 6 square foot of space as adults. If you live in a 1 bedroom flat then you can rarely sacrifice 20ft+ of space for a burmese/retic.
2 - Danger. If you live on your own you can still safely handle your adult royal, a 15ft burmese/reticulated python can be dangerous if being handled alone.
3 - Money. Correct housing for a large python can cost hundreds of pounds, a royal pythons set up can cost as little as £20.
4 - Feeding. Buying in rabbits is significantly more expensive than rats and mice.

Those are my main "logical" reasons for why owning a royal is better than owning a large bodied python (perhaps not better, but more convienient for the average person).

Now, add in the fact that royals most likely now are the most mutated snake species on the planet, not just in the number of man made combos, but in base genetics taken from the wild. I know I for one find the whole thing amazingly interesting. Yesterday we hatched some triple het (albino, hypo clown) babies, now on the outside they look (mostly) like normals, but genetically they have more going on than most visual combos available today.

Factor in the average royals temperment and ease of care and thats all the reasons why royals are so popular. Irrispective of this new drive some people have to breed for proffit, if they were hard to keep, died at the slightest stress, got to 20ft or were agressive then less people would keep them.
Yesterday I cleaned and watered some 150 royals, took time to handle each one a little and enjoy what I was doing. Then I cleaned out the 11ft retic, which because she had one on her was as stressful to me as it was the snake, she tried getting behind other vivs, was defencive in her viv and all in all not fun to deal with at all. If this was her usual behaviour then she wouldn't be staying with me much longer as I wouldn't find keeping her rewarding in the slightest.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:59 AM
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I am fond of royals for the very reasons every one else has said, they are not demanding of space, they are generally docile (which my children love, and I do too) they are highly variable even in their wild type colours/patterns, they do not require huge amounts of food, the genetic side also fascinates me...the morph combos are endless! I can see how people easily become "addicted" to them....especially those who are heavily into the morph side of it! I love my retics, and loved my burms...but as said...on the whole they are much more of a chore to look after, there are other smaller pythons I love too...but if you weigh up everything, as a general all rounder it is hard to beat royals...the only downside to them for me is their lack of activity, and the inevitable fasts that 99% will go through....I could never personally specialise in just royals...but will always have at least a few in my collection.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:06 AM
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If you ask me, I haven't read the whole thread, but is simply because people are sheep.
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If you ask me, I haven't read the whole thread, but is simply because people are sheep.
I think you should maybe read the thread then Josh

This is such an *sshole attitude... it annoys me
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:59 AM
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If you ask me, I haven't read the whole thread, but is simply because people are sheep.
Yup, I am totally a sheep because I enjoy something that's appealing to my aesthetical self

Wait, what? Are you actually serious? People can't enjoy a snake, for the way it looks, it behaves, handling, size, etc... for the sake of it?
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If you ask me, I haven't read the whole thread, but is simply because people are sheep.

have to say that is really a tad harsh! royals are popular for a reason...if you read through the thread you will see why...if people are sheep, then why do they not follow the herd by keeping retics? or boas? or burms? or hognoses? or carpets? or bloods? or any other snakes that are in the hobby for that matter....people (generally) like royals for a reason....and something about them has to have made them quite possibly the most widely kept species in the hobby.
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I have had numerous arguments with Josh and his attitude about this... its pathetic!
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