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Old 07-07-2011, 11:26 PM
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Well, most reptile enclosures have a water source in them and many snakes in particular are known to either move through their water and around their viv or to move or tip their waterbowl....heatmat terminals are not waterproof and when you have a heatmat in a viv the terminal is inside....water + electricity = an accident waiting to happen.

There are other reasons but i'm not getting into an argument over it on the internet on a forum, it's not a risk i'd personally take and I prefer a guarded bulb.

i can see your point but how can you keep a snake with a bulb on 24/7, and if you have a heavy enough water bowl away from the heatmat at the cool end surely it will be safe?
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i can see your point but how can you keep a snake with a bulb on 24/7, and if you have a heavy enough water bowl away from the heatmat at the cool end surely it will be safe?
Ceramic bulbs do not give off visible light, so they're suitable as a 24-hour heat source.

Not only is a heat mat inside a viv a risk from the water bowl, but imagine what happens if snakey pees on the terminal block...
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Ceramic bulbs do not give off visible light, so they're suitable as a 24-hour heat source.

Not only is a heat mat inside a viv a risk from the water bowl, but imagine what happens if snakey pees on the terminal block...
Theres substrate over it, and although I don't KNOW I would imagine the manufacturers have made it somewhat water proof or have covered this in some way..
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:30 PM
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They do a waterproof heatmat. Not sure how good they are though.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:32 PM
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They do a waterproof heatmat. Not sure how good they are though.
I meant that if a snake pee'd on the console thingy then I'd imagine there would be no consequence. I would of thought that the manufacturers have this covered in some way.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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No matter where you go, you will always get this same argument.
Most manufacturers do clearly state that their mats are wipe clean, so they are waterproof to an extent, but they should not be submersed in water.
Move the water bowl to the cold end, less chance of the water getting tipped directly onto the heat mat. Use a heavier water bowl.
Finally, for a young corn snake, I'd say a heat mat is fine, I fully understand that heavier snakes can cause issues (their urine also tends to be in larger amounts, which could well cause a problem)
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Theres substrate over it, and although I don't KNOW I would imagine the manufacturers have made it somewhat water proof or have covered this in some way..
Nope, the blocks are unfortunately not sealed on any of the mats I own (of several brands).

The widdle issue is a bigger one with larger snakes (for whom I wouldn't recommend a heat mat anyway) - but even a corn can move its substrate out of the way.
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Nope, the blocks are unfortunately not sealed.

The widdle issue is a bigger one with larger snakes (for whom I wouldn't recommend a heat mat anyway) - but even a corn can move its substrate out of the way.
I know boids and larger rat snakes have issues with thermal blocking hence heat mats aren't used. But would an adult corn snake cause a problem on a mat?
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In my opinion heat mates are pretty water tight - ive had one that got wet from time to time and it was still fine. Just ensure the screws are always tight.

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