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Old 11-10-2012, 04:00 PM
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As i said in my original post here, that's very much a human concern, as though we own the world. If you consider that the world was once one piece of land and is now broken up, what constitutes native? An animal that was there for three human generations? An animal that has adapted to live there? Will the burmese python be 'native' to Florida in 20 years? Are they causing true devastation, or is it an anti-immigrant policy for animals?
Native tends to be measured in terms of millennia rather than decades... It's not so much about human policy as an ecosystem's lack of adaptation to the new threat, which throws the whole system out of balance - often catastrophically so, unfortunately.

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simple answer to that give them away to rep keepers in the uk or anywhere else, i'd rather them be in captivity than be ultimately slaughtered. i'd rather take the burm in rather than kill it.
Honest question, but are you a minor? I don't want to pull you up for naiveté only to find out you're under 16... There are more non-native wildlife specimens culled than there are bred for the entire pet trade! Just how many keepers do you think will be willing to take in a few hundred wild (read: parasitised and highly dangerous, aggressive) snakes? And the same next year? And the next?..... Clearly implausible.
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I'm pretty sure we do not have a culling policy for illegal immigrants and in my opinion it is on the same lines. I have no religious background at all, but why do we believe that we have the right to kill off animals?
Good grief. Seriously?
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Your idea of sensibility is interesting. I'll direct the question at you also: What's your rationale and strategy concerning invasive species and what's your current understanding of, and response to, their ecology and impact on an ecosystem?

Just asking since you're the sensible one.
As Richwhite Said Are We All No Invasive Species ?? And Are We Not The Worst Culprits Of Wrecking The Eco System ?? I Say Leave Them Be There Impact On The Eco System Is No Were Near Man's And When It Come's To The 17ft They Killed Why Not Put It A Reptile House As Americas Biggest Snake, People Would Have Came From Far And Wide To See It !!!
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simple answer to that give them away to rep keepers in the uk or anywhere else, i'd rather them be in captivity than be ultimately slaughtered. i'd rather take the burm in rather than kill it.
OK well you do your research, get in contact with the relevant people, pay for the cost of capture and importation and take these snakes into captivity then. Don't forget all the vets treatment for any parasites etc, well volunteered, good chap!
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everyone has there opinions, i don't mock you for yours
I didn't mock your opinions I asked you to back them up. Your response was to equate an accidentally-released large apex predator, bringing carnage to an ecosystem, to the genocide of people breaking the law?

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OK well you do your research, get in contact with the relevant people, pay for the cost of capture and importation and take these snakes into captivity then. Don't forget all the vets treatment for any parasites etc, well volunteered, good chap!
I know right, i am a good chap, thankyou
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belive it or not the record for eggs laid by a burmese still stands at 107!!
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As Richwhite Said Are We All No Invasive Species ?? And Are We Not The Worst Culprits Of Wrecking The Eco System ?? I Say Leave Them Be There Impact On The Eco System Is No Were Near Man's And When It Come's To The 17ft They Killed Why Not Put It A Reptile House As Americas Biggest Snake, People Would Have Came From Far And Wide To See It !!!
For one it would not be usa biggest snake.
We as humans are trying in parts to put things right,sometimes.
if the burms are left to do as they will the native species of the glades will be no more.Just look at the cane toads in oz for a example.
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For one it would not be usa biggest snake.
We as humans are trying in parts to put things right,sometimes.
if the burms are left to do as they will the native species of the glades will be no more.Just look at the cane toads in oz for a example.
Not to mention the mice, rats, rabbits, pigs... Poor old Oz really did take a battering and the landscape and ecosystem really has suffered for it.
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