I work for a bird of prey centre, and am only used to training birds of prey (duh), who will do pretty much anything so long as they're getting food. I have recently acquired two 10 week old Ravens, my concern in that I've got them too late and that they are not imprinted on me. I've had them in my care for nearly 3 weeks now, I sit in their aviary with them for 2 hours every day to get them used to me. (Their aviary is off view from public at the moment.) They no longer freak out whenever I go in there, and they call to me for food if they can hear my voice before I reach them. For the last week I have been trying to get them to come to my arm/fist for food. Am I doing something wrong, because they're having none of it. (Like I said I've only ever worked with birds of prey, so please don't judge.) I have trained exotic mammals, so I'm wondering would it be best to train them with those techniques, like target training and clicker training etc. How do I get them used to me handling them also? With the birds of prey in our care they are all wearing equipment but I've heard you shouldn't put equipment on corvids because the hate being forcefully restrained. I am under some pressure from my boss to have them 'show ready' by the summer holidays but I know I can't rush this process because any mistake or upset I cause them, they're so intelligent they'll remember me for it and I'll take a huge step backwards with them. Do I pick them up, and force them (in the nicest sense of the word) to let me hold them, or is that a massive no go? Sorry for the stupidly long message!!! Thanks!