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Hello,

I have just joined the group because my girlfriend and I have a three and a bit year old hermanns tortoise which we have had about 2 months. Tank (the tortoise) has in the last week, stopped opening his eyes and become very lethargic and has not been seen eating very much. We took him to the vet today who said she was pessimistic about his eyes recovering and whether or not he might survive, saying that he was showing signs of anaemia such as his mouth gone a grey colour from pink. She did give him a vitamin B12 injection and told my girlfriend to call another more knowledgeable vet on Friday. I have seen on other posts that worms can cause issues in tortoises but the vet didn't ask about this. So I guess what I am asking for is some advice on what the cause might be, what we can do to help tank get better and anything else knowledgeable people might suggest we do to get and keep him healthy.

In case it helps... Tank lives in a 1.5 meter by 0.5 meter tortoise box in the living room with a substrate of mainly top soil with maybe 20% sand mixed in and a 60w UV buld at one end and a pool at the far end. He has a mixed diet of weeds from the garden but particularly likes red valerian, dandilion and the odd bit of rocket and geranium.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Hello,

I have just joined the group because my girlfriend and I have a three and a bit year old hermanns tortoise which we have had about 2 months. Tank (the tortoise) has in the last week, stopped opening his eyes and become very lethargic and has not been seen eating very much. We took him to the vet today who said she was pessimistic about his eyes recovering and whether or not he might survive, saying that he was showing signs of anaemia such as his mouth gone a grey colour from pink. She did give him a vitamin B12 injection and told my girlfriend to call another more knowledgeable vet on Friday. I have seen on other posts that worms can cause issues in tortoises but the vet didn't ask about this. So I guess what I am asking for is some advice on what the cause might be, what we can do to help tank get better and anything else knowledgeable people might suggest we do to get and keep him healthy.

In case it helps... Tank lives in a 1.5 meter by 0.5 meter tortoise box in the living room with a substrate of mainly top soil with maybe 20% sand mixed in and a 60w UV buld at one end and a pool at the far end. He has a mixed diet of weeds from the garden but particularly likes red valerian, dandilion and the odd bit of rocket and geranium.

Thanks in advance!
It sounds as though the vet you saw, knows nothing about tortoises, as a vitamin jab is a waste of time and money, as it will have no effect, and non tort vets always do this.
Where did you get your tortoise from?
If from a pet shop or on line, then it could be an over load of worms or Protozoa.
Does he/she have breathing problems, or a runny nose?
I would do away with the sand, as this can irritate their eyes.
Was your tort like this when you got him/her?
Also make sure you bathe your tort every day, as dehydration can have a big effect on torts too.
 

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When we first got him he was very active, trying to climb out etc and then he seemed to be getting on fine walking about and investigating everything but since his eyes stayed shut maybe a week and a bit ago he has barely eaten and doesn't move about much (a bit but tentatively). He gets bathed regularly and always has fresh water. He does seem to sort of sniffle and he puffs out his neck sometimes.

Thanks for the advice on substrate, my girlfriend had gone and got some tortoise substrate today from our local pet shop so we'll replace it with that. How should we go about ridding him or worms or protozoa?

Thanks again for the advice, much appreciated.
 

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I would take him to see a specialist vet, that has tortoise knowledge. Is there one near you that you know of?

I would definitely get a faecal sample checked... you can send this off yourself if you like, would be cheaper than at the vets.... Have a look at wormcount.com... you can order a test kit online, and they email you the results along with a recommendation. Though it is worth getting a very fresh sample checked by a reptile vet, as they can examine a wet prep for the presence of Protozoa.

Good luck with your tortoise :)
 

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Aww:( I hope your little one makes it. I would definitely reccommend trying to find a tortoise vet (they arent any more expensive just know what they are talking about!) There is a list here - http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/foru...se/233026-vets-recommended-tortoise-vets.html

if not hopefully someone might be able to recommend one in your area. It doesnt say where youre from on your profile so perhaps if you said, people might be able to push you in the right direction.

Will keep my fingers crossed for you:(
 

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I have to ask you, has your tortoise been spending time every day out in the sun? Mediterranean reptiles need high uv. Have you got a 12%uv tube, or the D3 combined lamp? A 60w bulb will not provide enough heat for a three foot tortoise table. You need a 100w and most certanly in the chillier months, or a 160w combined lamp. While you are waiting for the faecal sample report, you can bath your tortoises eyes with a salt water solution twice aday and smear a little olive oil over the eye lids. Make sure your tortoise sits in a warm bath each day, imprtant is it is not eating. You could try some cucumber for hydration. Please keep us informed of the tortoises progress.
 

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When we first got him he was very active, trying to climb out etc and then he seemed to be getting on fine walking about and investigating everything but since his eyes stayed shut maybe a week and a bit ago he has barely eaten and doesn't move about much (a bit but tentatively). He gets bathed regularly and always has fresh water. He does seem to sort of sniffle and he puffs out his neck sometimes.

Thanks for the advice on substrate, my girlfriend had gone and got some tortoise substrate today from our local pet shop so we'll replace it with that. How should we go about ridding him or worms or protozoa?

Thanks again for the advice, much appreciated.

If he sniffles and stretches out his neck, you need to get him to a tortoise vet as soon as possible!
 
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