[enlightenment]

Take the fastest and most deadly from the species of scorpion and spider.

Both are hunters.

Sometimes competing for the same food.

Of the two, who do you think (and WHY), is the superior predator, of the two?

For example, is a Camel Spider a better predator in nature, than the Death Stalker?

In terms of speed, etc...

 

[Luke]

it depends as most come from different parts and theyre prey is easier to catch, some are more susceptable to predators themselves like humans by this i mean deforrestation etc.

Both are unique hunters in their own right and i dont beleive either deserves the trophy for best predator.

Its a bit like the Great white, no doubt one of the most formiddable predators of the water yet helpless on land, its all about taking into considerations their habitat

Plus Dont forget how long Scorpions have been around for, theyve pretty much survived everything mother nature has thrown at them.

 

[enlightenment]

Plus Dont forget how long Scorpions have been around for, theyve pretty much survived everything mother nature has thrown at them.

Ah but many species of spider have been around for a good old while, as well.


Besides, time on the earth does not always equate to being the best hunter.

 

[Luke]

yes a fair point but on what criteria do we judge the hunting and predatory skills and still keep it fair and non biased as they are different in their hunting ways and have different ways of life.

 

[enlightenment]

yes a fair point but on what criteria do we judge the hunting and predatory skills and still keep it fair and non biased as they are different in their hunting ways and have different ways of life.

Speed of strike, strike to kill ratio, in their prey, etc..?

 

[Luke]

Speed of strike - Well most are ambush predators but a spider will jump quickly on its prey same as a scorpion, but the speed of the telson coming down onto its prey is unreal.

strike to kill ratio - In the wild i think youll find that 99.9% of the time its always a strike in order to kill. Scorpions do have very strong venom compared to spiders, but spiders will still kill. Again our T's will catch and then you will find the cricket/locust may still be alive for a while after, whereas our desert hairy will catch, sting and in seconds the prey is dead.

in their prey - ? not sure what you meant here but if you mean their type of prey i think youll find theyre pretty much the same bar a few differences.

I think if this was put to a specialist it wouldnt be answered, i myself dont believe their is a BEST as it is called. Personally i think the scorpion is more tougher on the outside than a spider but i dont want to take any credit off the spiders.

 

[enlightenment]

Speed of strike - Well most are ambush predators but a spider will jump quickly on its prey same as a scorpion, but the speed of the telson coming down onto its prey is unreal.

strike to kill ratio - In the wild i think youll find that 99.9% of the time its always a strike in order to kill. Scorpions do have very strong venom compared to spiders, but spiders will still kill. Again our T's will catch and then you will find the cricket/locust may still be alive for a while after, whereas our desert hairy will catch, sting and in seconds the prey is dead.

in their prey - ? not sure what you meant here but if you mean their type of prey i think youll find theyre pretty much the same bar a few differences.

I think if this was put to a specialist it wouldnt be answered, i myself dont believe their is a BEST as it is called. Personally i think the scorpion is more tougher on the outside than a spider but i dont want to take any credit off the spiders.

Of course, you could then say that some spiders were better predators since they build webs, sit back, and simply wait.

Maximum return for less effort..?

Give all the factors that we have discussed so far, the Praying Mantis must also be in the running for the best predator..?

 

[Penny]

Scorpion hands down

 

[enlightenment]

Scorpion hands down

Would surely be species dependent though, non?

For example, I have a flat rock scorp, nice to look at, but very benign.

Compare it's hunting instincts to that of say a wolf spider, a huntsman, a Mantis, a centipede, etc, etc....

Just a thought....

 

[Penny]

well look at how quick the desert hairy is? VERY fast

 

[enlightenment]

well look at how quick the desert hairy is? VERY fast

Well, yes, I have one.

But surely even that must have predators too, not just mammals?

 

[Luke]

To be honest mate, its quite obvious that you obviously think the spider is the best so called predator.
I really cannot be bothered with this post to be fair, as it seems rather childish.

 

[enlightenment]

To be honest mate, its quite obvious that you obviously think the spider is the best so called predator.
I really cannot be bothered with this post to be fair, as it seems rather childish.

Er, okay then, have a good day....

 

[Luke]

no offence mate, i meant nothing by it

 

[enlightenment]

None taken.

Just thought it might be an interesting thread.

You don't.

Fair enough.

However, I do not 'obviously' think the spiders are the best predators.

Take it easy