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I was wondering if I could add food coloring or something else to snail eggs since my garter snakes love to eat them but cant see them since they are clear and is just a pain to feed them the eggs
 

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I was wondering if I could add food coloring or something else to snail eggs since my garter snakes love to eat them but cant see them since they are clear and is just a pain to feed them the eggs
I wouldn't- there are lots of things harmless for us but not for reptiles, & you don't know what's in the food colouring that could be toxic to reptiles. Garters should be able to hunt by smell, if not you don't have to feed them snail eggs.
 

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I was wondering if I could add food coloring or something else to snail eggs since my garter snakes love to eat them but cant see them since they are clear and is just a pain to feed them the eggs
Hi, surely the snake will be able to detect them via it`s chemosensory abilities?
 

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Hi, surely the snake will be able to detect them via it`s chemosensory abilities?
It surely must, via its Jacobson's Organ. But even if snails' eggs have no detectable smell (extremely unlikely), there are many other things garters will eat such as worms & fish.
 

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I was wondering if I could add food coloring or something else to snail eggs since my garter snakes love to eat them but cant see them since they are clear and is just a pain to feed them the eggs
Why are you feeding snails eggs to garter snakes?????
I'm not aware that these would be part of their nor al diet, nor do they have much in nutrition.
 

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I was wondering if I could add food coloring or something else to snail eggs since my garter snakes love to eat them but cant see them since they are clear and is just a pain to feed them the eggs
Is it me or do wee seem to be getting the most obscure first time posts on the forum these days !

May I suggest you do some more research in to the species of snake you keep and provide the correct dietary needs rather than adding artificial dies to an item that is not commonly fed to this species of snake. There are plenty of approved list of fish types on the net, plus earthworms, and even pink mice are more suitable
 

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Is it me or do wee seem to be getting the most obscure first time posts on the forum these days !

May I suggest you do some more research in to the species of snake you keep and provide the correct dietary needs rather than adding artificial dies to an item that is not commonly fed to this species of snake. There are plenty of approved list of fish types on the net, plus earthworms, and even pink mice are more suitable
No doubt garters do indeed eat snails' eggs as part of their diet in the wild, as demonstrated by the OP's example's willingness to do so- but I doubt very much if they're ever a staple part of their diet, & more of an 'as & when they encounter them' occasional extra meal. I also have serious doubts regarding the nutritional value of such a food other than as an occasional supplementary meal.
 

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Usually I just feed the snakes the snails but they have laid so many eggs that if they all hatched it would destroy my tank so I tried to feed the snakes the eggs and they went crazy for them. When they could not see them on the tongs they went for the fingers in search of the eggs. I also think they eat eggs more often than they eat snails due to Great Pond and Blatter snails laying eggs everywhere. Might just start using a feeding bowl when snail eggs are being fed.
 

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Sorry but I smell TROLL.
Garter snakes do NOT eat snails. There are very, very few snake species that do as they require some very specialised jaw adaptations to do so. The shell is undigestible, and in snakes that eat snails (Dipsas spp for example), the body of the snail is removed from the she'll. Which needs highly specialist jaws that garters don't have.
So sorry, but this entire thread now screams TROLL.

It was bad enough asking about addi g food colouring to snail eggs, but now claiming your garters eat snails?? And feeding them snail eggs from tongs?????

No.
 

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Sorry but I smell TROLL.
Garter snakes do NOT eat snails. There are very, very few snake species that do as they require some very specialised jaw adaptations to do so. The shell is undigestible, and in snakes that eat snails (Dipsas spp for example), the body of the snail is removed from the she'll. Which needs highly specialist jaws that garters don't have.
So sorry, but this entire thread now screams TROLL.

It was bad enough asking about addi g food colouring to snail eggs, but now claiming your garters eat snails?? And feeding them snail eggs from tongs?????

No.
I was thinking the same... but every time I've said the same in other threads I got flamed.... hence my subtle comment about the obscure nature of these posts...
 

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The snails have to be deshelled since they can not digest the shell. This may look like a troll post but I can post a video of my garters eating deshelled snails and their eggs later next week since it is used as a treat and not a staple diet.
 

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The snails have to be deshelled since they can not digest the shell. This may look like a troll post but I can post a video of my garters eating deshelled snails and their eggs later next week since it is used as a treat and not a staple diet.
In that case try putting the snail eggs in a feeding dish- the snake should be able to find them by smell.
 

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The snails have to be deshelled since they can not digest the shell. This may look like a troll post but I can post a video of my garters eating deshelled snails and their eggs later next week since it is used as a treat and not a staple diet.
Absolute rubbish.
Garters do not have jaws evolved to extract a snail from its shell.
Therefore this "diet" is bizarre, unnatural, and wide open to health issues for the snakes.
Why the hell would you want to find snails, remove them from their shells and then feed them to a snake that doesn't eat them normally?????
I'm sorry but I stand by my opinion.
This is no more than trolling and this thread needs to be locked.
 

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In fact, before I report this thread and ask for that to be done, how about you post your videos of your garters eating snails and snail eggs.
Even then, I would still be highly dubious.
 

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In fact, before I report this thread and ask for that to be done, how about you post your videos of your garters eating snails and snail eggs.
Even then, I would still be highly dubious.
Yes, I am planning to post a video on it. The only reason I know of the garter snakes eating snails is I have put snails into the enclosure to see if they will eat them but they only stuck stopping when they hit a shell so I removed the shell with a small fishing hook to see if this was just a coincidence the garter snake ate the snails when reintroduced. I later checked if the garter snake would eat slugs and they would not only deshelled snails and there which was discovered only recently eggs.
The tongs I mentioned earlier are these
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The video will also be later this week like I have stated earlier so if you could wait until then greatly appreciated.
 

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I dont understand why this video cannot be posted now?
If you have it, the simply post the link to it!!
Saying you have it but can't post it for a week is doing nothing for your credibility.
As for those tongs well, wow!
What a discovery. They are available in every pet shop, first aid supplier, caterer in fact anywhere that sells tweezers.
They are nothing special. I have a dark blue pair that came from a partially used scenes of crime kit at work. They are found literally everywhere.
 

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I dont understand why this video cannot be posted now?
If you have it, the simply post the link to it!!
Saying you have it but can't post it for a week is doing nothing for your credibility.
As for those tongs well, wow!
What a discovery. They are available in every pet shop, first aid supplier, caterer in fact anywhere that sells tweezers.
They are nothing special. I have a dark blue pair that came from a partially used scenes of crime kit at work. They are found literally everywhere.
To give the OP benefit of the doubt, maybe he needs to wait until he next feeds the snake to film it?
 

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I dont understand why this video cannot be posted now?
If you have it, the simply post the link to it!!
Saying you have it but can't post it for a week is doing nothing for your credibility.
As for those tongs well, wow!
What a discovery. They are available in every pet shop, first aid supplier, caterer in fact anywhere that sells tweezers.
They are nothing special. I have a dark blue pair that came from a partially used scenes of crime kit at work. They are found literally everywhere.
I don't have it yet since I did not think I needed to when I was feeding them two days ago.
And I mentioned the tongs I used because of one of the replies saying "And feeding them snail eggs from tongs?????"
 

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Should be able to post the video tomorrow.
And it continues.
I will be very happy to be corrected and proven wrong.
But your last post said that it would be available later in the week, now tomorrow??
The snakes were fed two days ago, so you are going to feed again tomorrow, film, and post the footage, is that correct?
The tongs again I query.
They are thick tipped, with a rough tip. Not quite sure how you can hold a snail egg in them without crushing the egg leaving a tiny slimy piece of mush that will just slip out of them.
 
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