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hiya all,

i have a firebellied newt i did have 2 up until the other day i cant find the other one he has escaped im confused as to where he is but now my other newt is lonely he keeps looking for his mate, At our shop we have a new delivery of firebellied toads and i'm wondering if i can mix them any suggestions?? i know they require the same basic set up of half water half land but im not sure if they will get on. ??? any info will be appreciated cheerz x
 

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I wouldn't newts like toads secrete toxins into the water which may kill the frogs most times different speices shouldn't be mixed like Fire bellied I've a pair these but I keep them seperate I was tempted to add a ribbon newt but due to size difference and possible bullying decided against it. Still trying to sex them
 

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mixing newts and frogs

cheers for the your opinions peeps im not doing that putting my newt and frog together now even though they are from the same family both being firebellied and of equal size in a way ive just decided to get some rainbow crabs now i think and give them a half land half water viv x
 

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errr dont you think i have been looking for my escapee newt and who said that im worrying about getting rainbow crabs just an idea my brother fed my newts for me as i was working away he didnt put the lid on properly suppose i didnt expect anything else typical fella ha
 

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Just so you know, firebellied toads and firebellied newts are NOT from the same family!!! one is a toad, one is a newt doesnt that tell you? just because something has a similar common name doesnt mean it has anything to do with the other.

And also, please do not even consider putting crabs in with amphibians of any kind. No species should be mixed, especially true with amphibians as they have semi permeable skin which is extremely sensitive to toxins and chemicals... which they all secrete too. The fact they are both colourfully coloured should tell you that is a warning to other creatures not to go near them because they are toxic... thats a general rule from the animal kingdom... just look at poison dart frogs and venomous snakes. If you put crabs in with anything, it will hurt the other animal. especially with amphibians as they have soft skin.

Please never consider mixing any species again. If you want 2 species, get 2 tanks.
 

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OH MY GOD i didnt mean i was putting crabs in with a newt i do know not to mix these 2 species when i read that i thought oops its sounds like im gonna mix my newt and my rainbow crabs i didnt finish one sentence i just jumped onto another errr oops teaches me to check what ive written before i submit it, my mistake, you know how you say that firebellied toads and firebellied newts arnt from the same family and that i wasnt to assume they were as they had a common name obviously i know one is a newt and one is a toad that is balently obvious but they have the same firebellied markings on there underside forgive me for believing that they have both evovled similar methods of protection (which is what firebellied is) its good to hear other peoples opinion on it but i take it with a pinch of salt as its not like im talking to a herpetogist or a vet etc just another learning hobbyist like myself. cheerz x
 

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ha ha ha i just read that art gecko's post again but properly this time i only scanned it before i posted my reply,, i had to laugh the way you go on saying take the poison arrow dart frog blah lah example blah please mate dont insult my intellenge my word you went on a mad rant dictating to me if you want to speciies get to viv's tanks in your words do you think i am a complete moron i work in a repltile specialising petshop i know all about frogs having penetratable skin etc blah im offended by your message trying to talk down to me ha get a grip your not david attenborough i probably know more than you but thanks for trying to state the obvious to me anyway we had a good laugh about it nice one
 

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Look, if you will make stupid comments like thinking they are in the same family then i will think you are stupid. I must say after reading that i noticed some other posts you made and i was surprised at how out of character the post in question was. Working in a shop doesnt mean much when you see the state of most herp shops, especially on the amphibian side of things... my local one didnt even have a water dish in with their firebellys for example.

I never mean to be abusive or offend anyone., but when people make stupid comments and assume they know everything if angers me as its the animals that suffer.
If you are as knowledgeable as you say you are then please dont think about mixing species again, im sure you know its for the best.

Just so you know, i know im not david attenborough, but i am a marine biologist so i do know what im talking about more than most
 

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you asked a question on wether these two can be mixed and reading art_geckos posts all she as done is answer that, so not sure why your annoyed with her, she made the comment about the crabs because thats what your post sounded like you have even admited that you worded it wrong when reading back....you also made the comment of these two being the same family, all she has done is correct you which surely can only be in the animals best interest...... :)
 

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ok ok fair enough i did make myself sound rather stupid in my hairbrained idea about mixing my firebellied toad and the newt i would never have just gone ahead and mixed them without checking first, let me make it clear that idea was a terrible one im fully aware that mixing different species is'nt ideal for the reptile or amphibian in question i really cant explain why i came out with it in the first place i must have been having a blonde moment.

I currently have a lemon phase bearded dragon she is 2 years old i also have 2 whites tree frogs that ive had since they were froglets roughly 6 weeks old i have 2 tomato frogs that are sub adults had them from froglets i have an iguana she is 6 month oldi have 2 rats, 5 african albino clawed frogs 1 newt a selection of tropical fish a sickly anole from our shop who im nursing back to good health and a dog NOT ONCE HAVE I HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY HERPS i look after my pets offering them a varied and balanced diet adquate sized vivariums and the correct temperatures and lighting I really dont want you to think i dont care about my babies i love every one of them equally and they are cleaned out regularly, Also i must refer to your comment about pet shops and i totally agree with you a high percentage of pet shops have no idea about how to keep there reptile's and amphibian's i have seem some shocking pet shops in my time but let me garantee you that our shop is maintained to a very high standard its a new shop we've only been open 3 months wh are situated in Liverpool anyone is more than welcome to visit our shop and see for yourself how we keep our animals and i can assure you they are all looked after to a high standard as if they were my own.

And as far as you being a marine biologist that make no difference to me i say everyone has a dream job and that must be yours good luck with that one ha
 

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I didnt mean to imply that you dont look after your animals properly at all, as i said thats why i was surprised when i read your other posts because you clearly do care for your animals. After all, thts why were all on here.
I also didnt mean to accuse your shop of being one of the bad ones, i was just pointing out that there are many many dodgy ones... unfortunatly!!!

If all herp enthusiasts were as dedicated and caring as most of the people on here, the state of the reptile market would be much better. I do care very passionatly about the health and wellbeing of peoples pets, and other forums i go on (i wont name names!!) do get littered with people who think they know it all trying to convince people that its safe to mix species - so its kind of a reflex to get defensive. its often the only way people will realise there wrong unfortunatly! and im sorry i assumed you were one of those from that post.
And yea, marine biology is my dream job... there's so much we dont know its great to feel as if we havent even started to really work out the world we live in.
Good luck with the anole btw.

Nicky: Thanks for pointing out that i wasnt meaning to be offensive or argumentative, i'm glad that we've all been able to work it out (thats the beauty of being women i guess!!)

Sarah
 

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ha ha ha your all women i thought this was an amphibians room all women ha hy you say that girl was someone implying you are half man ha or maybe your half frog come on chick sort it out so how long did it take ya to qualify as a fully fledged marine biologist ???? and what is your currrent area of study im intreaged to know ???

kerrie x
 

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Art_Gecko101 said:
Just so you know, firebellied toads and firebellied newts are NOT from the same family!!! one is a toad, one is a newt doesnt that tell you? just because something has a similar common name doesnt mean it has anything to do with the other.

And also, please do not even consider putting crabs in with amphibians of any kind. No species should be mixed, especially true with amphibians as they have semi permeable skin which is extremely sensitive to toxins and chemicals... which they all secrete too. The fact they are both colourfully coloured should tell you that is a warning to other creatures not to go near them because they are toxic... thats a general rule from the animal kingdom... just look at poison dart frogs and venomous snakes. If you put crabs in with anything, it will hurt the other animal. especially with amphibians as they have soft skin.
Please never consider mixing any species again. If you want 2 species, get 2 tanks.
One is from family Urodela - newt
Anura- frogs and toads both are very different,
This is true crabs shouldn't be mixed with other animls either
 
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