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There are studies that show that snake in the wild eating a lot more diverse diet. In fact, it seems that the main foot item for male ball / royal pythons for example - is made of 70% birds and only females having 66% mammals as regular diet (studies here, here and here).

So I thought I check what IS actually out there to feed ... Well as it turns out not much. Obviously rats and mice are widely available to some degree. Quality varies a lot, but indeed you should be able to find them.

Another food item easily obtainable are rabbits .. obviously only works on larger species and potentially Quails ... I think the shop with the most variety in the UK is Kiezebrink but even so - there is a distinct lack of variety.

I found out you can ask farms for some different items. I found squirrels and pigeons for sale, other game in general - which is great. Yet you can't use them as a lot of times they got potentially remains of bullets in them as they are shot rather than euthanized ...

One meat place sells certain game and squirrels 'including fur' for the 'experience of self prep and camp adventures' where squirrels aren't shot but never are available.

I guess my point is - we as reptile keeper try and aim to give the animal the best possible 'wild' experience (to some extend where possible) yet when it comes to food - it is really difficult.

In fact, the hardest snake to keep for me was the King Cobra. Getting feeder snakes was tricky. Had to go up and down the country to find suitable large feeders.

That makes me wonder - why has no one ever bred the more specialist food items like birds, lizards and the likes, as feeder.

You can get anything and everything in other countries .. so I wonder, why not here ....
 

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There are studies that show that snake in the wild eating a lot more diverse diet. In fact, it seems that the main foot item for male ball / royal pythons for example - is made of 70% birds and only females having 66% mammals as regular diet (studies here, here and here).

So I thought I check what IS actually out there to feed ... Well as it turns out not much. Obviously rats and mice are widely available to some degree. Quality varies a lot, but indeed you should be able to find them.

Another food item easily obtainable are rabbits .. obviously only works on larger species and potentially Quails ... I think the shop with the most variety in the UK is Kiezebrink but even so - there is a distinct lack of variety.

I found out you can ask farms for some different items. I found squirrels and pigeons for sale, other game in general - which is great. Yet you can't use them as a lot of times they got potentially remains of bullets in them as they are shot rather than euthanized ...

One meat place sells certain game and squirrels 'including fur' for the 'experience of self prep and camp adventures' where squirrels aren't shot but never are available.

I guess my point is - we as reptile keeper try and aim to give the animal the best possible 'wild' experience (to some extend where possible) yet when it comes to food - it is really difficult.

In fact, the hardest snake to keep for me was the King Cobra. Getting feeder snakes was tricky. Had to go up and down the country to find suitable large feeders.

That makes me wonder - why has no one ever bred the more specialist food items like birds, lizards and the likes, as feeder.

You can get anything and everything in other countries .. so I wonder, why not here ....
Because the " tree huggers " wouldn't allow it.
 

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I think the biggest problem with feeders is the misinformation about legality. How often I have to read that it is 'illegal' etc. is crazy.
 
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