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Hi All
What would you recomend to have in a first aid kit for snakes?.
When you tell me I will make one up.
I am fortunate to have a specialist vet 30 miles away so if I am not sure they go to the Vets the snakes come first money last.
But it would be nice to have a first aid kit for minor things.


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you shouldnt really need much, maybe some wound healing aid from the pet shop. if your snakes need medical attention then dont play vet take them to a pro. that said, i take rescues and heres some of the stuff i find most usefull:

silk surtures and needle (emergency lacerations only)
baytril and sterile needles/syringe (i find injectible to be most efficient)
blunt nose tweesers (for the removal of eyecaps etc..)
cathiter tube (for tube feeding)
pure glucose (will perk up any non feeder instantly)
repti antiseptic
ky jelly
small wooden spatulas (perfect for opening the mouth)
iodine
cotton buds/wool
petroleum jelly
probe kit
multi-vits

this is the stuff i find most usefull, obviously not for begginers. it depends on your experience and confidence what you will likeley need.
hopefully you would never need it but as some of you will know i take rescues and see reps in a pretty poor state of health
 

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can members of the public obtain iv/subcutanious batryl, if so where would i be able to get it from?

i am fairly experiance and have worked in a vets (small fluffies) so i know what i am dooing, and some antibiotics would alway be good to have on hand
 

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im not sure if members of the public can buy it in any form other than tablet or powder but i work at a zoo and run a rescue so if you do need it and you aint a complete twat with snakes then i could give you my order id and you could order it online.
you must promise not to put it on my account tho lol
pm me if your serious
 

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Injectable baytril is a disaster waiting to happen. Anyone who reccomends this method needs to have a rethink. For those who don't know why, it causes nasty chemical burns.
Not that it should be reccomended at all on a public forum IMO.

A first aid kit for snakes needs only to include a dissinfectant solution - anything else should be dealt with by a vet until the owner knows more about the subject at hand. At which time he will know what he needs himself.

I know you mean well but to have this sort of post on a public forum can only lead to accidents when people not qualified try to fix a problem with equipment they don't know how to use.
 

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you shouldnt really need much, maybe some wound healing aid from the pet shop. if your snakes need medical attention then dont play vet take them to a pro
i did say. but being pretty comptient with reptiles and running a rescue i do need to have this stuff at hand.
as for using iv form baytril, sometimes its gotta be done, powder or tablet sometimes just wont work quick enough. its only recomended for those who really know what they are doing.
Fortaz (ceftazidime) is a newer anti-biotic but i found is a lot more risky than baytril. side effects include: hypersensitivity reactions, diarrhea, granulocytopenia, thrombocytopenia, mild azotemia.
baytril still gets my vote
 

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i don't think people should be havin injectable baytril unless prescribed.first aid kit wise
hot water bottle, antiseptic solution hibiscrub/peviodine, anivit tape/micropore, savlon and water :?
 

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reticulatus said:
Injectable baytril is a disaster waiting to happen. Anyone who reccomends this method needs to have a rethink. For those who don't know why, it causes nasty chemical burns.
Not that it should be reccomended at all on a public forum IMO.
Glad someone said that, in my opinion baytril should never be injected into a snake, there are much less unpleasant alternatives.
Actually - anyone ever injected themselves with baytril? Hurts like f*ck.. much nicer stuff is available.
 

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Glad someone said that, in my opinion baytril should never be injected into a snake, there are much less unpleasant alternatives.
what like fortaz???
granted its not very plesant for the snake but used correctly it can clear things other anti-biotics or tablet form just cant.
through experience i tend to use tablet form for early RI's etc takes a bit longer to take effect but the snake does have the time whereas a snake with severe Mycoplasma will not have the time.
its to be used sparingly but when the need arises its an absolute lifesaver if used correctly, you must agree?
 

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No not fortaz.. I suppose in a squeeze you may have no other option,. but I consider it to be something of a last resort.
 

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there are alternative anti-biotics:

amikacin (amiglyde sulfate); highly nephrotoxic
amoxi (amoxicillin); ineffective unless used with aminoglycosides such as amikacin
flagyl (metronidazole); just dont rate it
fortaz (ceftazidime); you must be joking!!!

as i said the only really effective one from the list above (in my opinion) is fortaz and we all know what that stuff is like, talk about a stingy jab!! will turn your snake into a break dancer!
and as for the rest of the side effects....see above post!
in my opinion baytril is your best bet
 

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condoms

seriously.lol

need to find smaller sizes ideally though

but great waterproof cover for wounds or to hold on bandages
 

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PendleHog said:
Glad someone said that, in my opinion baytril should never be injected into a snake, there are much less unpleasant alternatives.
Actually - anyone ever injected themselves with baytril? Hurts like f*ck.. much nicer stuff is available.
people are saying that we are too irresponsible to use batryl, but you injected yourself...i could give100 reasons why that is wrong, firstly batryl is for animals, note the bottle says "NOT FOR HUMAN USE"
 

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I am not saying you are too "irresponsible" to use it, but that I feel it is a nasty drug which causes unpleasant burns and tissue damage in snakes. It is not an issue of ability, it is the choice of drug I dislike.
As it happens I have never had a problem that flagyl wasnt enough for - I WOULD consider baytril IF i had no other option for the snake.

Baytril is licensed for use in a variety of mammals (not humans of course..) I happened to have been injected by a colleague whilst we struggled with an unruly dog :roll:
I certainly would NOT recommend using veterinary products on humans (besides which, most human drugs are cheaper anyway :lol: ) and I didn't choose to inject myself with it :lol:

I hope Ive made this post clear enough, Im not trying to get at anyone, we all have our own preferred methodology.
 

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Most small animal drugs are more expensive than the human equivalent, so why bother?!
Livestock drugs are a bit different.. they tend to be cheap as you like :lol:
There is a little piece of legislation called the medicines act that might have something to say about it though :lol:
 

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Actually whilst we're on the subject.. tought I'd mention that Baytril 2.5% is actually the only antibiotic listed in the NOAH compendium as licensed for use in reptiles, and under CASCADE this makes it difficult for vets to elect to use a different drug.
 

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i'd be more worried about the misuse of drugs act! He says they "make him strong like bull" :lol:
 

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baytril does burn in animals, why should not inject into the same spot

should move across body and down 2 - 3 scales
 
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