[Graz]

hi again lol so many questions

im buying a viv in a week for my first reptiles ( leo's) and what should i fill the bottom of the viv with ? sand ? stones ?

can anyone put up a picture of there leo's viv so i can look ?

 

[dragonsdad&mum]

We use paper towell in ours while they're babies. No risk of impaction.

Good luck with Trixie and Lillibeth! lol :lol:

 

[Graz]

Can u use sand ?

 

[Spikebrit]

you can use sand, either reptile sand or play sand, not calci sand!

but its recomended that you use kitchen role, tiles or somthing simular while their young to reduce the risk of inpactation.

then again ive never kept leo's hehe

hugs
Spike

 

[dragonsdad&mum]

U can do, if ur goin to then I believe Playsand, like what is used for kiddies sand pits is most advisable.

However, lots of people experience impaction with sand, the grains get eaten as your leos eat their crix or whatever, and eventually this builds up and blocks the bowels. There are few warning signs which can be missed, so by the time u know this is happening it can be too late.

Never use Calci-sand with leos as if they are lacking calcium they will seek it out and may actually EAT the sand to gain the calcium. Do u know u should also have a small dish of calcium in the viv?

If u need any other advice pls do ask! x

 

[Graz]

could you use mulch?

 

[K.J.Geckos]

no no no dont use playsand.iv said this to about 100 people on this forum alone.play sand is suitable for kids not leos at all.there is way to much silica in it for a leo to digest safley.Check the leopard gecko manual it eaven states it in there under the substrate section.people think its safe as kids are given it and can eat it but leos cant.I agree never use calcisand either.this is a stupid idea to make calcisand in the first place.You can buy reptile sand from any good petshop who specialise in exotics but please guys dont use playsand!!!! :shock:

 

[dragonsdad&mum]

no no no dont use playsand.iv said this to about 100 people on this forum alone.play sand is suitable for kids not leos at all.there is way to much silica in it for a leo to digest safley.Check the leopard gecko manual it eaven states it in there under the substrate section.people think its safe as kids are given it and can eat it but leos cant.I agree never use calcisand either.this is a stupid idea to make calcisand in the first place.You can buy reptile sand from any good petshop who specialise in exotics but please guys dont use playsand!!!! :shock:

I'd have suggested not to use sand AT ALL, but Graz seemed set on it. As I said I use paper towell at the m, much safer, easy to clean/replace, fab! The only reason I mentioned play sand is coz I knew calcisand was a def NONO! Thanku for lettin me know that Playsand too is a def NONO. I'll know for the future, altho I don't think I'd ever use sand for any of my reps for peace of mind.

 

[Graz]

yeh im gonna use paper towels now

 

[Art_Gecko101]

I use river rocks, with water circulating around them, and live moss growing on top of the rock. But then, mine are arboreal...

I think the best leo vivs ive seen use slate slabs as a substrate! It looks really cool and if safe from impaction! you can also build hides and shelves out of it.

 

[K.J.Geckos]

I'd have suggested not to use sand AT ALL, but Graz seemed set on it. As I said I use paper towell at the m, much safer, easy to clean/replace, fab! The only reason I mentioned play sand is coz I knew calcisand was a def NONO! Thanku for lettin me know that Playsand too is a def NONO. I'll know for the future, altho I don't think I'd ever use sand for any of my reps for peace of mind.

no hun didnt mean you.just meant what spike brit wrote.I know loads of people who say that for leos but i cant beleave how daft some people can be about using it for a leo.I mean i understand if your a beginer and are unsure what to use.I think paper towel is the best choice really as its easy to change and more hygenic too.plus it never hurts to be on the safe side eh?

 

[Spikebrit]

no hun didnt mean you.just meant what spike brit wrote.I know loads of people who say that for leos but i cant beleave how daft some people can be about using it for a leo.I mean i understand if your a beginer and are unsure what to use.I think paper towel is the best choice really as its easy to change and more hygenic too.plus it never hurts to be on the safe side eh?

Only mantioned play sand as it has been mentioned by a few peple that it is safe for reptiles. Personally i use reptile sand as to me it seems the best option and has cool colours lol. Also, i said i havnt kept leo's so i was just going on the general concencious from what i had read here.

I always belived playsand was safe as so many people use it, but actually got into a discussion about it with a mate shortly after i posted this when she brought it to my attention the fact it wasnt.

Would only ever keep my babies on kitchen role as my steno's love to dig far to much.

hugs
Spike