[boa-stu]

we have a 8 month ish old albino gecko who until yesterday was doing very very well,this morning we have seen a huge change in her...she is lethargic not interested in food at all...we have since taken her out of her normal viv and put her in a new viv to see how she does.

since she has been in there we have noticed her jaw is not closing properly,she is open mouthed all the time..we thought this might have been the playsand she was on but for the last 5 months she has been fine.she seems to be licking all the time and she is just looking awful,she shed the other day for a few days and she is now flake free of skin.can anyone give any advice at all?i'm worried about her.as like i said before she has been fine and eating well but her jaw just doesn't look right at all.

please someone with geckos,can you help??

 

[boa-stu]

anyone out there?lol:lol2:

 

[klair328]

if u pick her up...touch her jaw is it flubbery? like moves easily?

 

[Blazey]

sounds like she needs to go to the vet, sounds like a dislocation or something, doesnt sound good anyway.

 

[boa-stu]

sounds like she needs to go to the vet, sounds like a dislocation or something, doesnt sound good anyway.

i gathered that,our vet has not seen a gecko before ive already tried them

her jaw moves easily yes klair..lol...she is trying to close it.

 

[klair328]

perhaps mbd? soz if this sounds obious im not tryint o insult anyone but it happend to me.my hatchling was eatnig fine and ahd a source of calcium in her vi then she started having difficulties shuting her mouth..turned out it was mbd so we started dusting her crickets even more it got worse before it got better though..in myccase anyway cause her front legs went all kinky.shes better now though but thats it she was fine untill then we noticed her jaw was open and really soft....
hope this helps?

 

[Blazey]

i gathered that,our vet has not seen a gecko before ive already tried them

her jaw moves easily yes klair..lol...she is trying to close it.

yeh just saw that on another forum. rspca may be able to do something but i couldnt guarantee it.
Sometimes too much calcium is bad for a reptile as well so dont go over the top in a panic.

 

[klair328]

have u had a wee look inside her mouth incase she ahs a bug or something jamed at the top of her mouth or the back of her throat thats irratating her? is she still drinking?

 

[Venomous Poison]

i think in most cases you have to find a vet that specialises in reps and exotics...there was a thread on here about mouth rot. im not trying to put the fear of god into you or anything,but there are picutres on there of somebody elses gecko that had a similar sounding problem.take a look cause the advice on there might help you out or give u an insight as to what it is....hope that helps!! and i hope ur gecko gets better x

 

[tombraider]

was it silvershark whos little gecko had something wrong with its jaw. I think someone said it could be rubbery jaw due to lack of calcium. Her geckos jaw looked pretty bad though, like it was broken.

 

[tombraider]

Sometimes too much calcium is bad for a reptile as well so dont go over the top in a panic.

I think its supposed to take quite alot of calcium over a long period of time before it starts to effect internal organs so it shouldnt effect your leo to up his calcium supply for the moment.

 

[Venomous Poison]

yeh u got the person right...atm that thread is on top of page 5 under PHOTO: leos mouth URGENT

 

[boa-stu]

right 1st and for most it's NOT mbd i have another gecko same size and he gets same dusting,same heat same everything..he is fine.so i know its not that,she seems to have got her jaw back in place for whatever reason.
she is in a new tank on her own on newspaper just incase it is the sand which there was a bit of when i washed her mouth this evening.she is still laying still,but seems to move a bit more.

 

[SilverSteno]

right 1st and for most it's NOT mbd i have another gecko same size and he gets same dusting,same heat same everything..he is fine.so i know its not that,she seems to have got her jaw back in place for whatever reason.
she is in a new tank on her own on newspaper just incase it is the sand which there was a bit of when i washed her mouth this evening.she is still laying still,but seems to move a bit more.

That's the same with my mourning gecko...in fact what you have described is very similar. I had two living together, one became really ill with her jaw messed up (and she has just had her 2nd bad shed) while the other was (and still is) perfectly fine. I think Tombraider is right with thinking that my geckos jaw was broken rather than anything else...her mouth has pretty much healed up apart from two bumps where the jaw was hanging down, like you'd expect with a break I guess. It came on too quick for mouth rot and though MBD came up, her calcium sacs under her jaw showed that she had enough calcium to store away. So whatever went on it is still a bit of a mystery! Though I think some bullying may have played a part hence the two are going to live seperate forever now. I suspect you may be right with thinking it was maybe dislocated, however individual geckos can vary in how well they take up calcium and if there are any bullying problems that can reduce how much food one is getting and therefore how much calcium there are getting so that could still be an issue.

My gecko is still in recovery, her sheds are a real concern so I'll be watching her very carefully on her next shed though I have some shed-aid for her now which will hopefully stop any further shedding problems.

 

[Blazey]

yeh i agree totally with the fact they can be taking what looks to be the same amount of calcium but when it comes down to actual digestion its a different matter. Different levels of stress can easily affect digestion and if one has been bullying the other, it'd be quite simple for the one thats getting bullied to be affected that way, though obviously this isnt neccessarily true. I'm not a herp vet, i wouldve thought it was something to do witha dislocation or break before i wouldve thought MBD but they are mysterious creatures and who knows what goes on in their little tiny bodies that we dont know about. Glad its back in place anyway.

 

[DeanThorpe]

dont most or al geckos take calcium when needed from a dish?
if this was the case, all calcium suplementation could be halted..

 

[tombraider]

Ive seen my leos take it from dishes but never my fat tail or golden geckos, but they still do have a dish in the viv but its always exactly how i left it with no tell tall tongue marks.

 

[SilverSteno]

dont most or al geckos take calcium when needed from a dish?
if this was the case, all calcium suplementation could be halted..

My sand geckos do, but they also have a habit of throwing the calcium out of the dish and replacing it with sand. Home made cali-sand!:lol2:

 

[boa-stu]

thank's guys for all your help,sadly she died this afternoon and she was booked into vets in the city for a look this afternoon/evening..we're all gutted especially the kids.she was eating fine 3 days ago so its beyond me whats happened.i asked the vets if it was mbd and they said its very much doubtful as the rest of her body was fine,when she was pooing this morning it was all blood and i took this to my local vets she was clear of parasite's and worm..they think her inside's had just shut down for what ever reason.

so it's a sad day in our house,thank's again for all the help.

 

[tombraider]

Sorry to hear about you and your families loss of the leo stu