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So I have a Bosc Monitor who's just over a year old an she's impacted. There's no doubt at all about this. She was impacted cause she ate a jumbo mouse (meant for a Boa, not her, but she tends to wander around my room and I forgot she was out) and I was hoping she'd just digest it, but she passed some faeces about 3 days after it happened, I figured she'd be fine, then she passed something that resembled just fur. This was two weeks ago.
Since then I've been trying to get her to pass faeces (bathing her daily, raising temperatures, oliver oil, paraffin oil etc.) and NOTHING works! The bottom of her stomach isn't red so thankfully the impaction hasn't gone septic but I have no idea how to get her to pass it.
I've heard there's a way to "pop" the impaction, and get her to pass it- I was wondering if I could have someone tell me how to?
Ging to the vets is not an option- there are no reptile vets close by.
I used to have a Bearded Dragn who was very prone to impaction, so I'm used to massaging, bathing etc. But she will NOT pass it, no matter how hard I try :/ So if anyone has any information that could help me out I would be very grateful, thank you.
 

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So I have a Bosc Monitor who's just over a year old an she's impacted. There's no doubt at all about this. She was impacted cause she ate a jumbo mouse (meant for a Boa, not her, but she tends to wander around my room and I forgot she was out) and I was hoping she'd just digest it, but she passed some faeces about 3 days after it happened, I figured she'd be fine, then she passed something that resembled just fur. This was two weeks ago.
Since then I've been trying to get her to pass faeces (bathing her daily, raising temperatures, oliver oil, paraffin oil etc.) and NOTHING works! The bottom of her stomach isn't red so thankfully the impaction hasn't gone septic but I have no idea how to get her to pass it.
I've heard there's a way to "pop" the impaction, and get her to pass it- I was wondering if I could have someone tell me how to?
Ging to the vets is not an option- there are no reptile vets close by.
I used to have a Bearded Dragn who was very prone to impaction, so I'm used to massaging, bathing etc. But she will NOT pass it, no matter how hard I try :/ So if anyone has any information that could help me out I would be very grateful, thank you.

Hiya Matey
Sorry to hear this, there are a few id reccomend you PM, but id still deffinatley go to the vets one way or another.
These two members are to quality & their advice is second to none.
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Hey, thanks, I'll pm them now about it :)
I'm honestly stuck for what to do, she's such a healthy lizard, and she behaves more like a dog than a lizard usually does (knocks over platic bottles and chases them around the room) so I'd be devastated if I couldn't help her out with this- she's definately the best reptile I've ever had :/
 

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Hey, thanks, I'll pm them now about it :)
I'm honestly stuck for what to do, she's such a healthy lizard, and she behaves more like a dog than a lizard usually does (knocks over platic bottles and chases them around the room) so I'd be devastated if I couldn't help her out with this- she's definately the best reptile I've ever had :/

I'd have thought she would regurgitate it, where abouts are you located, someone may now of a vet in your area or close by.
 

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The impaction's in her lower digestive tract, so I guess it got too far for her to regurgitate it. Though, honestly, I'm pretty shocked she is impacted since it's not at all common for Monitor lizards to get impacted :/
I'm in Hull, I know of Swanbridge and Kingston Vets but both of them are pretty bad when it comes to reptiles, so I refuse to g there unless I'm absolutely desperate, in case they make it worse :/
 

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I've missed why you think its impacted?

Ate a mouse
Passed some faeces
Passed some fur
and...?

Are you 100% sure it hasn't passed faeces in the remaining time?

Whats the husbandry of said Bosc as this will play a large part in the speed of digestion and subsequent voids.

Whats the temps and substrate?

Whats it been fed since the mouse?

Whats the usual feeding pattern and items, have you fed it anything since the mouse incident?
 

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I can feel the impaction inside of her for one thing, for another she's visually got bulges in her back half, she's become lethergic etc. She is 100% impacted.

And she passed a little amount of faeces, not much, and hasn't passed any since in about 2 weeks.

Honestly, I've checked all of those things, they're all right and I've actually raised the temp in the viv just to help with the tank being heated up.
I havn't fed her since the mous ebecause I didn't want to increase the impaction, I've given her some prunes in an attempt to help but she wouldn't eat them.
Substrate is sand- she's never been impacted before and she's been on sand for over a year- sand is clearly not the problem.

and feeding pattern is usually 2 small mice per week on alternate days (I'm at college three days a week so feeding time is limited) and usually about 3 size 5 locusts as well.

Honestly, it's not whether or not she is impacted, or if it's a regular thing. I know how she became impacted, and I've followed all normal "protocol" for an impaction, the only problem is that she's not passing anything. That's what I need help with.
 

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I can feel the impaction inside of her for one thing, for another she's visually got bulges in her back half, she's become lethergic etc. She is 100% impacted.

And she passed a little amount of faeces, not much, and hasn't passed any since in about 2 weeks.

Honestly, I've checked all of those things, they're all right and I've actually raised the temp in the viv just to help with the tank being heated up.
I havn't fed her since the mous ebecause I didn't want to increase the impaction, I've given her some prunes in an attempt to help but she wouldn't eat them.
Substrate is sand- she's never been impacted before and she's been on sand for over a year- sand is clearly not the problem.

and feeding pattern is usually 2 small mice per week on alternate days (I'm at college three days a week so feeding time is limited) and usually about 3 size 5 locusts as well.

Honestly, it's not whether or not she is impacted, or if it's a regular thing. I know how she became impacted, and I've followed all normal "protocol" for an impaction, the only problem is that she's not passing anything. That's what I need help with.
That'll be the vet, no need to ask on a forum.
 

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As I've already explained, there are no reputable vets for reptiles in my area. Did you read the first post properly at all?
The only reason I'm asking on the forum is because i've heard of something that involves "popping" the impaction so the animal can pass it, and was wondering how this would be done if it got to a point where I needed to do it.
 

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As I've already explained, there are no reputable vets for reptiles in my area. Did you read the first post properly at all?
The only reason I'm asking on the forum is because i've heard of something that involves "popping" the impaction so the animal can pass it, and was wondering how this would be done if it got to a point where I needed to do it.
You're not really going to get many people to help with an attitude like that.

Yes I read it and I asked you further clarrification on the subject as these play a part in the problem or solution. You answered some but not all.

If you don't trust a vet to touch the rep then why would you trust yourself to do a procedure from instructions on the net? Any forceful handling could rupture or herniate the stomach and bowl, thats not a risk I'd be willing to take I'm afraid.

You can get an eversion by stress and manipulation but thats the hemipens not necessarily an evacuation.
 

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Yes, and I wouldn't have an "attitude" if you didn't come across so condescending.

Yeah, except that the questions you asked where questions in which your intuition should have answered in the first post. Regardless, debating about that is irrelevant. Sorry for how I responded, I misread the situation.

And it's not so much the vet as the fact that I know so many people who've taken the advice of these vets and ended up with a reptile that's either died whilst at the vets, or has died because the advice the vet gave him didn't work.
So, honestly, I'd trust myself more purely cause f the reputation these vets have- I've never actually heard of someone taking their reptile their and the treatment the vet gives actually helping the animal.
 

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Impacted Bosc's Monitor

2 weeks is a long time for a monitor lizard to be impacted. Although you think it is faecal impaction it may be solidified urates in the bladder ....

Assuming it is faecal do the following:
  • Administer ORALLY, 5 ml of Liquid Parafin with 10 ml of water every day for 7 days or until it has normal poo.
  • Administer INTO THE CLOACA, 10 ml of warm Olive Oil every day for 5 days. Use the cheaper yellow oil rather than the thick green virgin olive oil.
  • Give it as much exercise as possible. Swimming & walking etc encourages peristalsis [gut motility].
  • Don't feed it for at least a week.
If this fails you MUST get it to a vet. Download a list of RCVS exotic vets from: http://www.thebhs.org/Documents/main_documents/RCVS specialist FULL 2010 list.pdf

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swanland and book your appointment with Paul only, telephone no is 01482 633888 i was recomended this vet by becky from hull pets and gardens he took care of my blackthroat hes good
 

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Out of curiosity how do you know for sure that your Bosc is impacted?

Feeding rodents to a Bosc twice a week is not ideal, their diet consists of 90% inverts. I have had a Bosc die because I fed it a diet consisting largely of rodents. The symptoms she showed before she died were similar to the ones you have described.

As said before a reptile vet is the best option. Do you not drive? Can you take the train to where there is a good vet? Reptiles tend to show signs of illness long after the problem started as a survival tactic in the wild. Your Bosc may be far worse than you suspect, best to get to a vet mate. You do not want you to be in the position I was. It is, and was, not nice!

Some good advice, said previously, I would recommend is to let the lizard swim in luke warm water to encourage it to pass faeces! The swimming and the warm water does wonders! Up the basking spot temps to 130f+ heat will aid digestion! I do not know what could of impacted your lizard. I have seen my monitors pass all types of stuff; wood chips, stones, moss. Good luck with yours and I hope all goes well for you!
 
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