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Hey,

Do these ever come onto the market? I have never seen one advertised.

IF anyone will be having any this coming year, will you have any for sale? If so, ideas of a price plz.
 

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never seen any for sale (in the UK) either...
if anyone produced, they'd be keepers for sure

albino het pied/pied het albino x dh = 1:8 albinopied

give it a year or 3 and you should see some
 

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never seen any for sale (in the UK) either...
if anyone produced, they'd be keepers for sure

albino het pied/pied het albino x dh = 1:8 albinopied

give it a year or 3 and you should see some
Yeah I kind of thought they'd be kept...
 

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Pied Het Albino - £5000 through Scales & Tails
That's crazy, how over priced?????

albino "near" breeding weight is what? around £1000

male pied £800-£1000

Within a few months you'd "possibly" have a few to sell.

albino het pied or vice versa, worth? £1600+ with males being more expensive (£2000)

EDIT My prices are guesstamates
 

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That's crazy, how over priced?????

albino "near" breeding wait is wait? around £1000

male pied £800-£1000

Within a few months you'd "possibly" have a few to sell.

albino het pied or vice versa, worth? £1600+ with males being more expensive (£2000)

EDIT My prices are guesstamates
with albino x pied you'd get double hets - no visuals, wait a couple of years with the siblings to get to that point
 

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so pied to albino would result in "normal" looking neonates?
 

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£5000 lot for het albino or other way round.

So how much is an albinopied? £10,000-£15,000
 

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actually..

it isn't 2 generations, when you breed the DH's together and you produce an albino, it will only be possible het for pied.

So you'd have to breed an albino pied, to an albino female for it to be albino 100% het pied.

So it's not a quick project :)
 

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was thinking the pied het albino female was 'probably' a 66% het, but at that price, she is more than likely a 100% het,
in which case, you're almost correct, and you'd be looking at 3 generations from scratch...

you can also get albino 100% het pied (and vice versa) from breeding albino 100% het pied x pied 100% het albino
 

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£5000 lot for het albino or other way round.

So how much is an albinopied? £10,000-£15,000
same shop had an 09 male £13500
 

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That's crazy, how over priced?????

albino "near" breeding weight is what? around £1000

male pied £800-£1000

Within a few months you'd "possibly" have a few to sell.

albino het pied or vice versa, worth? £1600+ with males being more expensive (£2000)

EDIT My prices are guesstamates
unfortunately you're so far off the mark its unreal.. the price is about right, and as al says, 13K up for albinopied..
 

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Ok, royal python math;
Male 08 pied = £1000
Female 05 albino = £1200
1 years food (1 rat, per snake, per week) = £52
Housing (Rubs from staples) = £20
Heating (heat mat, stat etc) = £50
Water bowls, hides and other bits = £20

That comes to £2342.

Next you'll need an incubator, and for one important clutch I'd say buy a proper one, so thats another £150

Then, IF your pair breed, and IF the female takes, and IF she lays anything viable then you MIGHT get 4-6 eggs. Lets say 5 for arguments sake.
All 5 hatchlings would be DH albino pied. Statisticly, there should be atleast one male and one female in that clutch. If not, better luck next year.
Then you need to grow on that 1.1 pair, and the others if you decide to keep them and want to up your odds. But you have to get them feeding too, which can be easy, or VERY hard, some might not make it, lets say something awful happens and you lose one. That leaves 4 snakes.
4 hatchlings, plus the original 2 adults need feeding, housing, water, hides etc, plus all the time you have to put into their care (say 2 hours a week total)
Statisticly females tend to breed better at about 3 years old, so you have 3 years feeding and growing to deal with to get that 1.1 pair up to weight. Breed them together for a 1/16th chance of hatching an albino pied.

All in all;
Total project cost - £6000+
Total project time - 416 hours over 4 years
Hatching an albino pied - Priceless
I dunno about you, but if I chose to sell something that took 4 years of my life to I'd be asking £13k too.

The reasons royal morph costs are so high are;
1 - The money that went into the original animal (recover original investment)
2 - The time/effort it takes to produce one (justify time spent on project)

If you aint got the time, effort patience or money then it aint gonna happen.
 

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Ok, royal python math;
Male 08 pied = £1000
Female 05 albino = £1200
1 years food (1 rat, per snake, per week) = £52
Housing (Rubs from staples) = £20
Heating (heat mat, stat etc) = £50
Water bowls, hides and other bits = £20

That comes to £2342.

Next you'll need an incubator, and for one important clutch I'd say buy a proper one, so thats another £150

Then, IF your pair breed, and IF the female takes, and IF she lays anything viable then you MIGHT get 4-6 eggs. Lets say 5 for arguments sake.
All 5 hatchlings would be DH albino pied. Statisticly, there should be atleast one male and one female in that clutch. If not, better luck next year.
Then you need to grow on that 1.1 pair, and the others if you decide to keep them and want to up your odds. But you have to get them feeding too, which can be easy, or VERY hard, some might not make it, lets say something awful happens and you lose one. That leaves 4 snakes.
4 hatchlings, plus the original 2 adults need feeding, housing, water, hides etc, plus all the time you have to put into their care (say 2 hours a week total)
Statisticly females tend to breed better at about 3 years old, so you have 3 years feeding and growing to deal with to get that 1.1 pair up to weight. Breed them together for a 1/16th chance of hatching an albino pied.

All in all;
Total project cost - £6000+
Total project time - 416 hours over 4 years
Hatching an albino pied - Priceless
I dunno about you, but if I chose to sell something that took 4 years of my life to I'd be asking £13k too.

The reasons royal morph costs are so high are;
1 - The money that went into the original animal (recover original investment)
2 - The time/effort it takes to produce one (justify time spent on project)

If you aint got the time, effort patience or money then it aint gonna happen.
Well put - couldn't agree more
 
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