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3 year old. excellent pedigree that can be proven. all jabs and checks up to date. world champion blood lines.
pics and more info available on request.
stud fee £400, puppies would retail for £500.
 

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sorry but wat do you mean by proven?

i will find out his hip score tomorrow but i know it is very good and his elbow score is 0.
 

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Prove equals has he been used before and produced live viable puppies that have grown on to be sold.

As a maiden stud your fee is too high as someone has to prove him out as we say in dogs most breeds offer maiden studs at £100 - £200 until he is proved to produce viable puppies.
 

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oh sorry. no this is the first time i have decided to stud him. unless he has sneaked off in the park ha ha. joking
 

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oh sorry. no this is the first time i have decided to stud him. unless he has sneaked off in the park ha ha. joking
Nobody will pay that kind of stud fee for a pet quality unproven dog. The hip and elbow scores will be on the certificate you got given when you had him X-rayed and scored.
 

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oh right ok, well il put it down to £150 then.

as u can tell im new to all this. thanks for the advice. He is just a fine animal and comes from an excellent background and would make excellent pups. and it would be good to see him carry on the bloodlines.
 

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he was already hip scored wen we bought him from the breeder i will dig out the certificate.

it may sound like im just an owner who is trying to make a few quid out of the dog. but its not the case.

like i said before i am new to this so im still finding things out. i have registered him on a few sites. and both my animals are KC registered.
 

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yes but he was already hip scored when we bought him
 

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The vet cannot score hips/elbows of puppys as they are only really cartilage until they are about a year old. An experianced vet would sedate the dog and xray hips and elbows then send the plates off to be scored. You would then recieve the results through the post
 

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oh right. it must be the parents hip scores i have then.

i will ring up the vet and get him scored.

thanks for the info.

i have 1 bitch and we had no intention of breeding her and as the male is her nephew we had her spade. we should have left her and just kept them seperate, they live together you see and share the same kennel, it is large enough.

im moving in a few weeks so i may set up several pens and look into breeding them. will have to read up about it first as im sure its and expensive and difficult process
 

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Should have no problems if the parents score are low Good Luck with that. My friend breeds GSD and its not as easy as you may think: victory:
 

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Your dogs breeder is always the best person to speak to about studding him out as if he's grown on better than they anticipated, the usual reason for letting an older dog go is basically not good enough, they may well like to use him themselves and prove him out.

You must also check his registration docs for any endorsements as most breeders place them on their progeny to prevent any of their pups from being kc registered in a bid to protect their reputation and bloodlines.
 

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oh right. it must be the parents hip scores i have then.

i will ring up the vet and get him scored.

thanks for the info.

i have 1 bitch and we had no intention of breeding her and as the male is her nephew we had her spade. we should have left her and just kept them seperate, they live together you see and share the same kennel, it is large enough.

im moving in a few weeks so i may set up several pens and look into breeding them. will have to read up about it first as im sure its and expensive and difficult process
not only expensive and difficult, they are hard to find responsible homes for. There are tens of thousands in rescue centres all over the country. I love the breed but even if I had one, there is no way I could bring myself to breed them, knowing what I do. I breed nice easy to home little dogs instead which don't tend to atttract the wrong sort of people like the 'macho' breeds do.I have my rottie X newfie, purely as a pet.
As a breeder you have a moral obligation to take back anything you breed if it can't be kept by the person who bought it.Will you be able to do so?Even if they might be say a fully grown, unsocialised, untrained 5 year old?
 

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Or a similarly behaved veteran as my friend did last year with a 10 yr old schip when the owners died?
Exactly.
We breeders have a duty to not only produce healthy well socialised puppies, but carefully vet the homes they go to and be willing to take back any who find themselves being rehomed. In my case, I have the owners sign a legal agreement to say that any dog not able to be kept, must come back to me.
 

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My new Rottie pup who is kc registered will be castrated at the appropriate age regardless of how good he looks etc etc. All my dogs are purely pets so they are all neutered
 
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