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:?: Hey, i'm wondering if anyone can help me. I have a 18" vivarium and i'm buying a baby tortoise (either a Hermanns or a Spur Thigh) and i'm wondering is an 18inch okay to put a baby tortoise in for a while until i get a 24" inch (have to do a bit of saving up first! :? ) It will be coming out of the tank every night to explore and also, how quickly do they grow?
And how old do they have to be before i can start letting him explore in the garden in his tortoise run i've brought him.

Anyone have any tips also on when you first bring your tortoise home?

Answers to all these questions will be much appreciated!! :p

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You can't really keep a tortoise in a tank. :cry:
It would be much better if you were able to keep it in a tortoise table. I know of some people who keep them in they big rabbit cages these are much better. These are much better for ventilation and in the long run you will have a much healthier, happier tort. :lol:
Don't actually have a tortoise at the moment just doing my research like yourself :D
Are you getting it of a breeder :D
 

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I can't really keep it on a tortoise table, i've done alot of research on them and really went to buy one, but then thought of my cat (he likes to knock things over & explore) and for the tort's sake, i didn't think it was a good idea. But the pet shop who sell the vivariums sell really nice ones, with ventilation in the top roof bit so enough air would get in i'm guessing and it wouldn't be stuck inside the cage 24/7, especially with it going outside in it's pen. So..i hope it would be okay? :?

Oh and as you are doing your research on torts like i am, could you give me some links so i can do more research? it's hard to find a good decent tort info website! x
 

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No absolutely not. It is IMPOSSIBLE to create a temperature gradient in an enclosed container of this size. Sorry for the capitals but this would be a certain death sentence for a tortoise. You need to create two sets of tmeperatures for a tortoise to live in, a hot spot of 30 degrees under a lamp and a much cooler end of low twenties maximum. Even a four foot vivarium would struggle to produce these temps. If you cannot give it an open toped enclosure then I would seriously think again about getting one as it would honestly not live long. :cry:
 

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Ah right, it's just at the pet shop they keep them in a 24" vivarium and they seem to be fine. I have read in alot of places it's best to keep them on a tortoise table, but with my naughty kitty... :(
I'll ask the pet shop about this, and give it a think through.
If anyone else could answer more questions from my first post, i'd be delighted :) thank you.
 

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As pet shops will only want to make a sale I would not take any notice of what they tell you. They will not have problems with the vivs as their torts will not live in them long enough to kill them- that happens later :cry:
If you are buying the tort from a pet shop that keeps them this way then they will most likely already have kidney problems. Stones start to form and then several months later the kidneys start to fail. This eventually leads to death by which time you do not connect it to the shop. If your kitten will be a problem - best not to buy a tortoise, it's not as though you already have it is it, and to be honest I would think you would put the needs of the tortoise first as you sound like a caring person :wink: Rather than ask the pet shop why not look here at information that is gained from many years research with no need to make money from you.
http://www.tortoisetrust.org/articles/vivarium.htm
 

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superb advice from our sue as always, but as already suggested if your cat is a big problem then best not to buy a torty, but i know a few peeps including myself who have or still use large rabbit cages (only while they are young though, then a tort table and outside quarters are a definate, but excess to outside in nice weather is also a definate) you can hang light fitments from the wire, and the trays are quite deep for decent substrates, but bare in mind this would only be tempory, but its good to see you asking questions before you buy, but let us know how you get on hun.
 

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i have two cats and my tortoise table is on floor as its very big, i have never had any probs from my cats....definately ehcoing everyone else and also like to say if you've done lots of research you would know vivs are a NO NO as far as torts go...and no point asking pet shop they make money by selling you the viv so always say it's ok....please please reconsider... :)
 

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Not quite impossible to create those temps, but would take some special kit to achieve !!

A table is the way to go, no questions.

Have you thought about a table for the tort and a cage for the cat???

Now I know that sounds a little sarcastic, but why punish one animal for the sake of another? I you cant or wont follow advice to ensure any animal is kept correctly, then maybe a tort is not for you.

Well done for asking though, always best to get other opinions
 

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As it has already been said a viv is a huge NONO and dont bother asking the pet shop as that is exactly what they probably are ( a pet shop not reptile specialist) and there only there to make a sale and probably havent a clue.
Get a tort table then get rid of the cat :D ( i dont really do furries only ones in my house are littluns rabbit and her hamster , the latter of the two has done me more damage than my turtles,torts and snakes put together pesky critter).

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