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Hi all,

i know Geckos dont need UV ight as a daily thing as they have natural sun light. BUT what is the purposemof placing it in during breeding time???

It will prob make them more active moving alot, but does it incouragethem sexualy ??? and if so how long does it take for that to happen. These girls are all first timers!!!
 

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Geckos DO need UV light!!! they get it from the sun... unless your gecko's live outside( and you live in a hot country) in the UK the summer time is the only time your lizard will get sufficient UV light can i also mention that UV rays will NOT pass through glass!! without UV light your lizards bones will not get the right amount of calcium that they need and the bones will become brittle and will eventually break look up Metabolic Bone Disease (MBD) Mellisa Kaplan is an exotics specialist, her web site is ANAPSID (i think) I don't want to sound harsh but PLEASE do some research this is a very important part of keeping lizards!!!
 

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Assuming you are talking about Leos, it isnt a necessity to give them UV lighting. Many keepers do not provide it and have no problems. With proper supplements they are fine without. I have never used it with Leos even when breeding and have never had a problem. :lol:
 

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if u say so! ever seen a case of MBD? just because theres no obvious probs i guarantee an xray would show poorly calcified bones. i've got some pics but am having trouble posting them.
 

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Yes they are for Leopard Geckos and i will have you kno i know alot about Geckos thank yuo very much. I was just askingabout UV lighting, i know for a fact Leopard eckos dont need UV light generaly.

I have kept lizards for about 1 year now and not one is mis treated and inact my Leopard geckos are healthier than some suppliers, weighting in at better weights than suppliers.

I treat m yanimals with love and care and i have done hours of research!!

I think yuo may ned to do research to see what you are actually sayign is wrong!!
 

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Yes I have seen MBD thank you very much. Leopard Geckos dont need UV light. As I say, properly supplemented food gives all the vitamins and minerals it needs. It is when people do not supplement foods properly that Leopard Geckos suffer from MBD. I have never kept any of my Leo's under UV lighting and have never had any problems. Neither have a lot of the most reputable breeders in the country.

It can be beneficial for these geckos to have a UV light, as they would come out and bask at sunrise and sunset in the wild, but as I said before, the appropriate supplements make this unecessary. Some people use UV, most people dont.
 

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im taliing to beestingbutterfly there not you, you know your stuff.

cheers for advice and assistance!!!

What would be the youngest age a female can make!!!

i BELIEVE FOR FIRST TIMER IT WOULD BE 12 - 14 months
 

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It can be beneficial for these geckos to have a UV light, as they would come out and bask at sunrise and sunset in the wild, but as I said before, the appropriate supplements make this unecessary. Some people use UV, most people dont.
This is what i'm saying to you! I'm honestly not trying to start a fight but reptiles fed primarily on insects not only need suplementation but UV too!! i appreciate that they bask later on in the day, but when they are doing this they are capable of seeing the UVB that they need and going to the places that they will get the most benefit from it. just like nocturnal lizards & Geckos still will benefit from it! By giving the UV light surely your doing the Best u can for them!?
 

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Lol, yea I know you weren't talking to me :lol: I was talking to him too :lol:

For a first time its best to be at least 12 months. Some people do breed from around 10 months, as long as she is over 50g it will be fine, but try to let her reach her adult length. I bred one of my females when she was just over 10 months old, because the rate at which she grew lengthwise had slowed right down, and she weighed over 50g, and she produced some great babies. Tims (NNY) gecko is one of my babies. :lol: :lol:
 

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beestingbutterfly said:
scarlettvegetable said:
It can be beneficial for these geckos to have a UV light, as they would come out and bask at sunrise and sunset in the wild, but as I said before, the appropriate supplements make this unecessary. Some people use UV, most people dont.
This is what i'm saying to you! I'm honestly not trying to start a fight but reptiles fed primarily on insects not only need suplementation but UV too!! i appreciate that they bask later on in the day, but when they are doing this they are capable of seeing the UVB that they need and going to the places that they will get the most benefit from it. just like nocturnal lizards & Geckos still will benefit from it! By giving the UV light surely your doing the Best u can for them!?
There is no definate evidence that by providing UV lighting you are benefiting the gecko. There are many many great breeders who have been breeding leos for many years and know their stuff that do not use it. And IMO if they have had no problems then that is good enough for me. If it is so bad not to give the gecko UV then why arent more geckos suffering with MBD? Most people on this forum do not use UV light with Leopard geckos, and many people on other forums do not use it either. Until I see some concrete evidence that by not providing UV lighting is harming my animals, I will continue not to use it.
 

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simply showing dietry aided Calcium is not always enough.


(Ok this Xray is of a Bearded dragon) showing 2 fractures but the only reason this animal has breaks is because its bone calcium was too low... this is MBD (just not severe cases like most people have seen!!) :wink:
 

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beestingbutterfly said:

simply showing dietry aided Calcium is not always enough.


(Ok this Xray is of a Bearded dragon) showing 2 fractures but the only reason this animal has breaks is because its bone calcium was too low... this is MBD (just not severe cases like most people have seen!!) :wink:
yeah but wheres the gecko mbd photos?
 

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Leopard Geckos are better at utilising D3 than other lizards, and can get away with basking for a very small period of time, IN THE WILD. These wild geckos are not fed foods which are gutloaded and dusted with extra vitamins and calcium.

There is also the fact that UV lighting can cause damage to the eyes of these geckos. Not just in albinos either. If anyone is going to provide UV light, it is only necessary to provide it in the morning and late afternoon, and only in a weak form.

Dont get me wrong, if you feel it necessary to provide it then go ahead, but im my personal experience and by talking to many other people I am going to continue to use my own judgement. And if it is wrong then so be it. You can relish the fact that you were right.
 

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And you cannot compare a Leopard Gecko to a Bearded Dragon....There is no comparison whatsoever.
 

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I didn't say there was!!! :lol: :lol:
i'm simply saying if we choose to keep exotic species we should do our upmost to give them the best they can get!!!
i appreciate what your saying... but u said it yourself UV can be usedf if u want, and yeah a low spectrum one would be best!!!! :wink:
 

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well as far as im concerned you have come across as a arse hole talking about geckos with mbd but showing other reptile photos :roll: Im sure we all already know that bearded dragons use UV. now take your stupid winks and piss off :thumb:
 

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We are talking about Leopard Geckos, and you posted a picture of a Bearded Dragon. It is much easier for a BD to suffer from MBD as they do require a high percentage of UV, as they are from the desert and are diurnal.

Yes I did say it can be used, but what your are making out is that is cant not be used. I am simply saying that it is not necessary to provide for this particular species. If someone came to me and asked about a different species, then I would apply it to that species. But as we are talking about Leo's, I am stating the facts that it is not necessary for these.

And I give my animals the best I possibly can. I always have since the day I started, and will do till the day I die. I have very particular views on keeping animals in captivity, and as such am very particular about the way I keep my animals. :lol: :lol:
 

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I dont want to get drsgged into this argument as I dont keep geckos and have know plans to,but all care sheets I've read says that they dont need them but they could be benificial, I'm going away now,so I'll leave you all to it.
 
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