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i do appreciate the help and advice guys, i really do.
thats why i put this thread up.

when i spray the viv its only because i read up on it and it is literally only a spray or 2, wouldnt know ive done it. on bit of a downer about it i reckon so i proberly wont be doing it again.
i will be buying stats and digi thermo soon anyways, like i said i wanted to make this thread because im interested in what others do, and i learn things :)
 

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I read that aswell mate but was told its not needed the point of forums is people give there opinon but there are 2 many people on this forum that try 2 dictate theres no need for infact its down right ignorant at times it boils ma blood i've nursed a gecko back from the brink but people still try tellin me am doin stuff wrong i dont know everythin no where near its a big learnin curve if people would word there suggestions better it would be so much nicer.
 

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cheers scott i know exactly what you mean, theres always one or 2 that will try and dictate for you, annoys the hell out of me but just goes over my head.

but also there are alot of people that give advice or tips that really help :notworthy:
 
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thank you welsh i just looked at them, i actually put that in my watch list lunchtime lol :)
 

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cheers scott i know exactly what you mean, theres always one or 2 that will try and dictate for you, annoys the hell out of me but just goes over my head.

but also there are alot of people that give advice or tips that really help :notworthy:[/QUOT
Oh yeah dont get me wrong theres sum great guys on here the boy nsn above here is great just some times he comes on to strong its only cos he cares tho got good advice but the way its worded some times puts me off
 

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yea i get what ya mean, i do it it all the time, i know people are helping, and yea the wording may be strong but its all how you take it on board, its hard to get a sense of meaning when its in text and not coming from someones voice
 

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course like i said take some advice on board take what you need basically my set ups is a mixture of about 4-5 pieces of advice but i've made it my own
 

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yea ive taken some advice, since i rescued him about 2month ago. he was really sick and to be honest didnt think he would last a week but now hes put weight on, looks healthier, more active and happier. i know what im doin 99% of the time but i rather ask advice from people who keep leos then read it out of a book
 

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yea ive taken some advice, since i rescued him about 2month ago. he was really sick and to be honest didnt think he would last a week but now hes put weight on, looks healthier, more active and happier. i know what im doin 99% of the time but i rather ask advice from people who keep leos then read it out of a book
Thats what i do aswell mate i also keep my 2 females toghether they dont like that much on here either by the way
 

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yea i dont see a problem with keeping them together untill you test the theory and you know for yourself how they get on etc
 

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yea i dont see a problem with keeping them together untill you test the theory and you know for yourself how they get on etc
Exactly i check mine everyday for bites an make sure they both eat there great together always cuddled up in hides and corners
 

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Will lightly misting roughly once a month ish cause any issues. If mine are coming into shed I have a moist hide but also lightly spray the viv although not their usual hide, not sure why I do it it's just become a wierd habit
Better to use Zoo med Repti shed aid
 

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cheers scott i know exactly what you mean, theres always one or 2 that will try and dictate for you, annoys the hell out of me but just goes over my head.

but also there are alot of people that give advice or tips that really help :notworthy:[/QUOT
Oh yeah dont get me wrong theres sum great guys on here the boy nsn above here is great just some times he comes on to strong its only cos he cares tho got good advice but the way its worded some times puts me off
I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm just being frank just because I don't put it in a light hearted manner doesn't mean I'm dictating lol
 

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Leo advice.....

Leo's come from very arid rocky desert habitats and thus are accustomed to very low humidity levels, high ones acheived by spraying, as said, will indeed lead to respitory infections in the long term, along with encouraging bacterial growth build up.
A small hide containing damp moss or a damp flannel half on/half off the heat mat will help them during shed time, otherwise a dish of water is all the moisture they need.
A heat mat covering 1/2 to a 3rd of the floor space, plugged into a thermostat (either mat or pulse) will see to all their heat needs, you are looking to acheive a hot end temp of around 32/33c with a natural gradient acheived down to their cool end at room temps (most standard 11x11 and 11x17 mats have no probs acheiving this).
As said it is this belly heat that is a must, as without it Leo's cannot digest their food properly, in the wild they would hide away during most of the day and venture out in the evening to lay belly flat down onto the sun heated rocks, they then lay and absorb this heat up through their belly. No additional lighting is needed at all. you could have a blue/red nightime viewing light for your convenience as you like, these are cool lights, therefore don't effect the ambient temps, I just have a lamp in my rep room which is blue, so no lighting at all in individual vivs.
Nav is a good lad and very devoted keeper and his advice here is all about helping you the OP, certainly not about posturing, belittleing or ear bashing, as some do I agree, in the end we all want is best for the animals in question :2thumb:. Take a look on my home page, there I have a list of really good leo sites with loads of caresheets and info to help.
 

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i just wana clear it up, i do agree that some people on any forum go beyond advice or tips and turn it into a lecture in a way, but i havent said or meant nsn89 is doing so, i said people on here, not any names

i apreciate the help and advice im given, and like i said thats why i opened this thread and to get an insight of peoples habbits of their reptiles, we all learn somewhere and aswell as people doing wrong or right things theres also personal preference of owner and reptile.

as i said before it is a very light spray i do each time, only in an assist to help the temp because it only reads 24c, thought also not 100% its accurate
 
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