[Mrs Meldrew]

Wing-clipping an animal as intelligent as a parrot, which is proven to cause physchological damage, as well as probable physical damage, is in my opinion, cruel & needless. If I had a pet Chimpanzee chained to the side of a cage so it couldn't escape, I would be called cruel & prosecuted. Same difference in my eyes.

I agree completely.....

clipped birds can still fly... and get a big workout trying...

That is quite simply the most stupid and thoughtless comment I have read on this thread....

and from someone I considered intelligent....

Show's how wrong my judgement can be...

Hope that was polite enough... when all I wanted to type was....

:bash: ARSE !!!! :bash:

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

If the cost of replacing you bird is your main consideration then perhaps that explains you difference in opinion.


I spend most days dealing with birds that have been affected by husbandry, including treating the consequences of wing clipping. Is it so wrong to want to offer the best possible conditions for a bird?

Well said....

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

a couple of freaking flight feathers and you think a bird is going to loose it's mind eh?

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Yes, depending on the individual bird.

I would be greatly concerned at the effect of having any of my birds wings clipped. Especially my African Grey.... he really is incredibly intelligent. His life wouldn't be worth living if he couldn't sit ontop of the curtain rail ( the only place where I can't reach him ) and shout abuse at me when I'm trying to put him away....

Part of their daily routine is having time out of their cages and the ability to have a fly about.....

They have wings, they fly... it's natural.

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

g to see a birds face when it realises it cant fly must be heart breaking:gasp:

Watching mines face when being the complete numpty he is, has flown into a door or wall (again) or had fallen off his perch .... sitting huffing and puffing on the floor until I pick him up and cuddle him... asking himself in a pathetic voice "are you alright Ozwald?"

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

But when it comes to parrots there more active and find getting to higher ground fairly easy unlikle poulty.Parrots can easy climb and if they take off at a high point they can end up doing harm to them self(wings,Brest bone,Even brake neck).Due to the clipped wing they have less control to maneuver them self.

Exactly...

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

Could you not consider letting her stay as she is, maybe she just doesn't want to be tame? Maybe eventually she will come to you, rather than the other way round?

This is a very good point.


Oz my African Grey came to me as a Re-home.

He was my ideal (much wanted ) parrot.

At first I could do anything with him.... I am still his main carer... I do all of the feeding/cleaning of his cage etc, however he suddenly decided 6 months ago that he loved my Husband who initially was terrified of him.

He is now very nippy with me, on the rare occasion now I get some serious parrot love (only if Hub is not around), but Hub is the one he will cuddle up to and regurgitate bits of pine nuts to...

I am very wary when handling him now, he has bonded with Hub, and that is it... he's a healthy, happy bird and I am just going to have to accept that...

It was his choice....

 

[Mrs Meldrew]

Birds have 2 means of dealing with fear. Fight, or flight. Remove the flight option of a fearful bird and clipping the wings could mean the bird starts to bite. It's a common ocurrance too.

I agree completely....