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blister disease? pls help.

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im scheduled for visit in vet tomorrow but i have no confidence in vet where i live now therefore my questions. please answer only if came across this situation. i have jungle python for three three years now. she never been sick or anything like that. non of mine snakes have been. to the chase thou.
about week ago i have noticed quite seizable blister on her neck. at first i thought I was result of burn. kinda human thing when fluid gather under skin when you burn yourselves. but after couple days it was all over the place. i would say they appear on half section in the middle of the snake along spine. this is where im getting puzzled. she is being kept in around 30% humidity in clean viv on newspapers. i would appreciate answers from your own experience. im worried as hell.
 
#3 ·
aint got any. but there was no discolouration on scales or any indication of any sort of skin deterioration. just bulge with watery fluid in it. shes in shed and it looks like 'waterish' fluid is between old and new skin.
edit. btw its all along spine.
 
#5 ·
i understand that but the patten of them and the look of them can help us abit....normally water blisters do clear up on there own in dry environments with the temps turned up

how are you measuring the humidity
 
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#4 ·
my dads royal had this sort of thing but it was around the middle of the body and tail. It looked like there were blisters on the underside of the snake so he took it the vets and they gave it injections each time he went and a daily treatment of this cream, i dont know the name of it but i could check also he had a bottle of iodine a think which he mixed with the cream i am not sure on that one though. Also he put the snake in the bath when shedding as it didn't shed properly. after a while though it was all cured and now he is fine, hope this helps and i hope your snake gets better : victory:
 
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i dont know the name of it but i could check also he had a bottle of iodine a think which he mixed with the cream i am not sure on that one though.
she has it on the other side but please do.
Also he put the snake in the bath when shedding as it didn't shed properly. after a while though it was all cured and now he is fine, hope this helps and i hope your snake gets better : victory:
i'm glad to hear that and i hope enta will get better too.
 
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again.please respond only if you came across this. to answer your question there is a vet in berlin. its about 300 km from the place i live. i will take her to him but it will be in 2 weeks time. apparently there is something wrong with viv or something else and its not temps nor humidity.
 
#19 ·
I've never had your type of python but I have seen blister disease in a number of colubrid snakes, like garters and corns, plus at least one rattlesnake.

A variety of opportunistic pathogens cause blister disease. They can produce blisters anywhere on the snake's head, body, or tail, though low on the sides seems to be the most common. Letting the problem go untreated in hopes it will go away by itself is a bad idea. Longterm cases require injected antibiotics for treatment and can cause death.

My first guess is that the temperature is too low. That can depress the immune response. Raising the temperature is helpful in treating most herp diseases. If the snake is being sprayed with water, I would quit doing it.

Ive used Betadine first aid cream to treat the problem. It's available over the counter from most of the drug stores in my side of the pond. The active ingredient is providone (spelling?) iodine. Cover the blistered areas and repeat daily. The blisters will shed off, but it is important to continue the treatment for a couple of days after the shed. Otherwise the problem will come back worse.

If you look at the blister disease sticky in this forum, you will see that Betadine solution is among the treatments of choice. I prefer the cream because it's easier to apply and the snake cannot drink it.

Good luck.

Disclaimer: I am not a veterinarian, just an experienced snake keeper.
 
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thank you. I was suspecting to low temps too. she's not untreated. i,ve been dealing with blisters with solution of iodine and 0.1% of ethatcridini lactac for a few days now. i have no access to betadine but it seems to help. the problem is that i have no one to go to. thanks for help.
 
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i dont think any of us are gona be able to help without pics hun, even then its could look like one thing and be another.
if its possible to get pics up then maybe someone will be able to give more of an idea!: victory:
 
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#46 ·
Alinoee.

No one here can diagnose the exact problem without seeing the actual snake in question.

Many people may be able to offer you good ideas of home treatments, they don't need to have had the exact same type of blisters in order to help.

More to the point how can anyone possibly say they have definitely experienced the same thing if they do not have photos to go on.

Bacterial blister disease can occur anywhere on a snakes body,
Fungal blister disease can occur anywhere on a snakes body,
Secondary infection blisters from mite/tick bites can occur anywhere on a snakes body.

The position of the blisters is of little relevance to the situation.
No one can help you in the way you seem to be looking for as we haven't seen any photos, we are not vets and we can't give you the guarantees you're asking for without seeing pictures first.

P.S: Yes I also have experience of blister disease in a number of snakes for a variety of reasons.
 
#48 ·
Alinoee.

No one here can diagnose the exact problem without seeing the actual snake in question.
i know that. and you guys are to far away to even ask for.
Alinoee.

More to the point how can anyone possibly say they have definitely experienced the same thing if they do not have photos to go on.

Bacterial blister disease can occur anywhere on a snakes body,
Fungal blister disease can occur anywhere on a snakes body,
Secondary infection blisters from mite/tick bites can occur anywhere on a snakes body.

The position of the blisters is of little relevance to the situation.
No one can help you in the way you seem to be looking for as we haven't seen any photos, we are not vets and we can't give you the guarantees you're asking for without seeing pictures first.

P.S: Yes I also have experience of blister disease in a number of snakes for a variety of reasons.
i will do anything to save her. she is in unfortunate situation that the vet knows less about reptiles than i do. and i dont agree that the position of blisters is of little relevance. im not asking for guarantees.
 
#50 ·
People on here ARE trying to help you but the main thing they are asking for in order to help you is one or two pictures. Without these they CANNOT help you out.
 
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#52 ·
People are on about pictures of the blisters, close up shots in a brighter area
 
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#55 ·
So you have lanced them yourself and disinfected the areas? please say u didnt!
 
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#62 ·
The blisters are better left alone and the snake given appropriate treatment to help deal with the cause, they shed out leaving scars underneath.

Lancing them simply opens your snake up for massive infection, how did you disinfect them?

If you lanced them already and you won't give clear details of your setup and you can take photos but you won't take photos that are actually of any use... what help do you actually want from us?
 
#64 ·
alinoee,

I find it very hard to accept that you truly want help for your snake, as if so
by being so offensive to those that seek to help you and your snake, you will have driven all but the ones that care very deeply for reptiles away from you.

Lucky for your snake though, you do still have those that are well in know, that also have the added bonus of working with excellent Vets used to dealing with reptiles, so perhaps if you truly care about your snake you can start listening and being polite towards them. They can help if you allow them to.

By the way, two things. One, I have replied on your other thread re the snake with the kinked spine, and two, if you don't see any reason for asking for pics, then why do you resort to doing just that with other posters at times, like this one example here. "Hypocritical" comes to mind here, plus blatent rudeness does not lead to nice young Man, or middleaged/old come to that, and as seen by some of your other posts, you do not always come across this way, so why now??????? when you are asking people for help/advise??????????????

Example of you asking for pics below.............

Maureen.

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I have noticed a couple of red spots and one 1cm red line on the botton of my royal on his neck.

any chance you can post picts? from your description it does not look like burn nor probs related to dirty viv. visit to vet would be in order - a usually.
 
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#76 ·
You really are rubbing people up the wrong way. People have tried countless times to help you but you are not giving sufficient information and when people pull you up on it your rude. Im surprised your thread has lasted this long without you receiving a high amount of abuse for your behaviour. Although once a few certain people come on it will start.

You have potentially given your snake more issues now that you have self treated a potential illness. You wouldnt trust your vet who has been proven to to adequate in treating animal ( hence the qualification) and believe your own experience and diagnosis is far more accurate. Your constantly going on about the welfare and health of your snake and yet you put it at more risk by doing such a stupid thing. I just hope for yours snakes sake that it comes out of all this ok. If an infection reaches it spine and you refuse to take it to a vets then the snake is pretty much dead.
 
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#80 · (Edited)
You really are rubbing people up the wrong way.
let me stop you here. i have snake with problem. i have vet with very limited knowledge about reptiles. im trying to do everything in my power to save her. who was i rubbing ?
im gonna cut it short. forgive me if its gonna sound rude but it its intended this time. if you have nothing to say about blisters along the spine please f off
 
#78 ·
well if you have now burst the blisters, i would move her into a completely sterile environment, a rub or new clean viv, and keep her on paper and try and keep the wounds as clean as possible or they will become infected and without treatment can lead to her death
 
#112 ·
This is what I was going to say, remove all cage furnishings including the water bowl and offer water every two days and bath the snake daily in a iodine water solution, also keep the humidity low for a while. Seems more likely to be burns that are infected. The OP asked is it as blister towards the end of this thread so heres a question, if you were unsure why did you try to pop them? Also what did you pop them with? Was it a sterile object?
 
#79 ·
I somehow think that it is you that is the problem..... your running a heat source with no stat..... in that picture your snake is incredibly close to the guard..... guards get hot and can cause burns.... you say you keep an eye out with regards to the temps but im guessing they are ground and air temps........ whats the temp of the guard because i can assure you it'll be more than 30 degrees and this could possibly be the cause of the blisters in the first place.
 
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#86 ·
If you would like to pm me where in Poland you reside, I will then have a request placed on a reptile Vet only forum which has Vets from all over the world on it. Perhaps I can find you a Vet used to dealing with reptiles in your immediate area, as by what you have now done, you have most certainly increased the problem which will further add to the earlier demise of the snake, although knowing how helpless the caring members here such as WLW are feeling with regards to the suffering you are allowing your snake to endure through total ignorance, (another baddy to add to your all ready growing list of faults) perhaps an early end to such suffering would seem the better way around things with your attitude and bad care towards your snakes.

Not long now before they leave you to it entirely.

Having been advised so many times already to change your attitude, I have seriously doubts as to whether you really do have a sick snake, or are enjoying wasting good peoples time when they could be helping someone else instead that really does want help and is more importantly, prepared to listen.

Maureen.
 
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#87 ·
Alinoee, a word of advice. Having the attitude you have will not be of any help to your snake or yourself as a forum member. If you have the right attitude in general and the right attitude towards listening to and taking on board other people's advice then you and your snake will do a lot better. If I had the same pompous attitude as you when I asked for advice earlier then I would not have received all the great advice and immense help and generosity from forum members here. Please be nice to the people here, a lot/most of them are genuinely wanting to help your snake as they really do care about the animals including other peoples in need of help.
 
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