It certainly can cause impaction, it depends on how moist it is, nice wet sphagnum can pass through with little trouble, the drier it is the worse the trouble!

 

It has been known for that to happen but I have never had a problem

 

certainly seen cases of it, and heard of many more. i dont have moss in any of my setups. cocofibre is the way to go

 

I removed my moss sharpish due to seeing this too, I was worried about impaction, I just use good old coco fibre (eco earth) now

 

Oh i use moss hope that dose not happen to mine.

 

so you know the risk but rather than remove the moss you are just going to hope none of yours ingest it, become impacted and die?

I let my kids play on the road. I hope they don't get hit by a car!

 

Thats the first time i have hear about the moss causing that thank you very much. I will replace it as soon as i can what i mean by i hope it dose not happen to mine because iv been using it.

Their is no need to take that tone with me now is their. I have read nothing about moss doing that so when i was buying it i thought i was doing right by my frogs.

 

Pesp, I agree, there was no need in the attitude coming form that post (if you've nothing good to say....and all that!!)

For information, two of the best shops in the NE use wetted moss as substrate and have no problems, ad indeed recommend the use of it. All horses for courses, each to their own, I have been told coco husk isnt the best either!!

Ben

 

I've read about impaction all over the place. I guess you didn't do much research before buying. Of course some common sense also helps.

 

I take advice from proven experts. Not JUST what I read. Some experts DO recommend it.

 

lol this is pointless. I hope for the sake of whatever creatures you have on moss that can get impacted that it does not happen to them but chances are that it will. Why some people trust a so called experts word that it won't over proven cases and common sense I'll never know. I won't get involved any further. The risks is obvious and doesn't really need me to argue that.

 

So if we carnt take the word of an expert why can we take your word for it. I will look into it i do want the best for my frogs i think everyone dose. But somtimes you miss thing and some advice says one thing and the other adive says another.

As for common sence i thought well their is moss in the wild and some people i know said they had no problems with it. However i will look it up and do more resarch.

Talking to people like that is not helping anyone if you think somone is doing it wrong of course let them know but the way you did it might make people not want to lisen to you.

 

So if we carnt take the word of an expert why can we take your word for it. I will look into it i do want the best for my frogs i think everyone dose. But somtimes you miss thing and some advice says one thing and the other adive says another.

As for common sence i thought well their is moss in the wild and some people i know said they had no problems with it. However i will look it up and do more resarch.

Talking to people like that is not helping anyone if you think somone is doing it wrong of course let them know but the way you did it might make people not want to lisen to you.

It's not about taking Simon's word for it, best to look at the argument presented and evaluate it on it's own merits. To me it seems that any risk of impaction, however small, should be avoided.

I don't however, agree with the tone taken. Unhelpful and unneccessary. It's clear you're trying to find out what's best for your frog.

 

It can cause impaction, but as long as the frog only ingests it rarely, its not likely to do any damage, try to keep the salad as you put it, moist.

 

I guess just be careful when feeding, i feed mine with forceps because my tank has no lid and I don't want crickets getting out!:2thumb:

Thats what I was told to do - Watch the frogs eat, take a bit of care over them, dont just feed and leave!!

To be honest, I dont keep mine on moss as Im not too keen on the look of it, but it was suggested in 2 shops by 2 sucessful breeders. I am on eco earth at the moment, but will be going to amphifoam soon!!

 

I guess just be careful when feeding, i feed mine with forceps because my tank has no lid and I don't want crickets getting out!:2thumb:

 

i would do that but 1 of them refuses to eat from my hand... he just puts his head down in frustration ... lol..the other 1 is just a pig and eats anything i give him

 

I use humus brick stuff, eco earth type i think. Its cheaper and easier anyway.

 

Oh god now i find this out i have my viv full off moss. to keep humidity up and my fog arrives wednesday. Used to be the thing to do was keep frogs with moss now it isnt! god i need to keep up with the times:whistling2:

 

Morgan Freeman makes a lot of sense. Take advice form people you trust, look at all of the available substrates and take your choice, they all ahve good and bad points IMHO.

I think Simon's opinion is very valid and worth consideration (just not the same as other advice I have been goven by local breeders), but it would have been better as advice and less than dictation.

Murph, ecoearth is dirt cheap and may even hep with humidity as it has good water retention

 

Morgan Freeman makes a lot of sense. Take advice form people you trust, look at all of the available substrates and take your choice, they all ahve good and bad points IMHO.

I think Simon's opinion is very valid and worth consideration (just not the same as other advice I have been goven by local breeders), but it would have been better as advice and less than dictation.

Murph, ecoearth is dirt cheap and may even hep with humidity as it has good water retention

Im on not on eco earth i will check it out and im about to move some of the moss but im not taking it all out it does look nice.:2thumb:

 

Yes i agree if their is a small chance its best not to use it i understand that and agree. I do keep my moss damp and do watch my frogs eat. I will be trying somthing eals.

All what i said was i hope that dose not happen to mine, what i should of carryed on to say is i look it up and stop using it. But if he realy wants the best for peoples frog you dont talk to people like that because they wont lisen.

I will lisen because i care for my frogs i got a book done some resarch on the frogs i was getting but didnt see anything on that. was told by somone who keeped frogs that they used moss and to be honest didnt question it. So yes im guilty of that but you could of said hay i realy wouldnt use that ect. maby cose i did not type in using moss with frogs.

If im doing somthing wrong i welcome people telling me and ill fix it. Just dont like to be spoken to like that.

 

To be honest I would do exactly as you are doing, honestly weigh it up for yourself and make your own choice

I posted the pic and information I had just to help that not because I think it is the devil's work or either way

We use moss substrate mainly for much smaller Amphibians here (Strawberry Dart Frogs, Golden Mantellas, Nectophrynoides climbing toads, etc) But the only time we use it with larger frogs or treefrogs is when it is kept almost saturated (Mossy frogs in their dry season Malayan leaf frogs etc)

Lotte***