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more reason to hate PETA

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#1 ·
Email PETA sent:
Thank you for contacting PETA about keeping snakes as pets.
We discourage people from choosing snakes as animal companions. As exotic animals, they require an environment that humans simply cannot provide. They are best adapted to life in the wild and are ill-equipped to spend their often-lengthy lives in confinement.
Keeping captive snakes is not only cruel to the snakes themselves but also to the animals who become their prey. In the wild, animals at least have the chance to escape a hunting snake, and if they are caught, their ordeal is soon over. But animals condemned to be eaten alive by captive snakes have to wait, sometimes for days, sharing a cage with a terrifying predator, until the snake finally becomes hungry enough to end the “prey” animal’s misery. Animals who are fed to snakes suffer horror and fear and have no chance of escape.
Not all captive snakes are fed live prey, however; snakes in zoos are usually given dead mice. Confronted with a snake who shows no interest in dead prey, zoo employees will often try to give dead mice the appearance of life by dangling them at the end of forceps.
PETA strongly encourages anyone who is presently keeping a snake to contact a herpetologist about the possibility of releasing that snake at a suitable time and place. These animals are very poorly suited to domestication. To learn more about ways to protect both wild and domesticated animals, please visit Companion Animals | PETA.org.
Lastly, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service recently recommended a ban against the import of nine snake species commonly sold as pets, so PETA is not alone in its concern for snakes. For the health and well-being of both people and reptiles, we support imposing a ban without further delay.

Thanks again for writing to PETA.

Sincerely,
Kate Hendrickson

Membership Correspondent

PETA Foundation | Oakland, CA

KateH@petaf.org






this was an email to a reptile owner in my area, this is the most insane dribble iv ever heard, when she wiped this out of her :censor: i bet shed never seen a snake owner. PETA spends so much money on shocktreatment style advertising where they find the complete bottom of the barrel worst animal environments imaginable, and pawn it off as "this is how it all is," that they euthanized more animals that the majority of animal shelters in america COMBINED. also, of the well over 200 reptile owners i know/have met/talk to regularly on here, not one would leave a live prey item in with their pet for days.... id have to get a snake out around a terrified rat if i did, as i tend to get my snake out most every day, my snakes probably live better than her children(if she even has any) also, im sure they support the ban, i bet theyd support a ban on any animal being kept or used in any way. and as for releasing my snakes into the wild? are you insane? every snake i own is at least 3 generations cb, they wouldnt last 30 min in the wild, my sunglow wouldnt last that long. if i have children, if they become PETA supporters, i think ill bash their head against a rock and try again, it should be justifiable homicide. this is why PETA is the biggest bunch of hardcore useless people in the world, rant over
 
#5 ·
iv met some pretty nutty britts :p but yes, we were the outcasts from your little island home :lol2:
 
#4 ·
Kate Hendrickson you absolute tool!! Lol!!

She need to get some research done and correct herself!
 
#6 ·
biggest load of know nowt gobshites after the rspca :crazy::roll:
loving the part about releasing pet snakes , wonder if the folk pushing the new snake ban legislation agree :bash:
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#7 ·
biggest load of know nowt gobshites after the rspca :crazy::roll:
loving the part about releasing pet snakes , wonder if the folk pushing the new snake ban legislation agree :bash:
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i hopefully assume that they mean sending them to the herpetologist so it can be released in its natural habitat, but as all mine are at least 3rd gen cb, theyd last 30 min
 
#10 · (Edited by Moderator)
What about the crabs this :censor: is keeping in her undies? It's cruel for them to be obliged to feed on a stinky :censor:. :whistling2:
Now guys, we have the same so-called "animal protection" lobbies and freaks everywhere. Most of them care about dogs and cats and have no freakin idea about the reality of reptile keeping. They are so brainwashed so as not to grab the idea that releasing some animals in the wild may not only lead many captive reptiles or other exotic animals to a certain death but also cause major ecologic disasters. They won't take any rational argument as their ideology is based on affect and on false assertions. Many of these activists are very young and easy to influence. Personally, if one ever comes to my home to try to release my geckos "in the wild", I am not sure about their chances of survival :whip::whistling2:
 
#12 ·
So now we know why burms are infesting the Everglades
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
its obviously uneducated :censor: but these shock tactics by PETA and APA unfortunately need to be taken seriously.

lots of non snake keepers willl read their bull :censor: and belive it, making it harder to overturn the negative views and keeping reptiles that are already out there.

there are already proposals to ban reptile keeping accross britain and eu aswell as america.

any sensible ideas on combatting these tools?
 
#15 ·
what exactly provoked this email ?
peta dont usually just randomly pick out animal keepers & find their email addresses to ambush em with bo***x .
did your mate email them & ask something in particular ? :hmm:
 
#19 ·
It's not just PETA, there's plenty of other retarded lunatics out there. I used to work for Unilever, who had an animal test facility on the site I worked at. We had a bunch of these idiots permanently camped outside the entrance gate. Apparently, the Company was squirting washing-up liquid into rats eyes and performing other such atrocities. However, since they couldn't get into the animal facility, they had no idea what went on. It didn't seem to occur to them that the site was a FOOD R&D site and that the rats were kept in very comfortable conditions and fed some very nice food! Admittedly, they were also given Pot Noodles - but who's to say rats don't like these? :lol2:

I suggested at the time that it might not be a bad idea to give them a tour of the facility, but these people were unstable, irrational terrorists and couldn't be trusted to behave like civilised human beings.
 
#20 ·
It's not just PETA, there's plenty of other retarded lunatics out there. I used to work for Unilever, who had an animal test facility on the site I worked at. We had a bunch of these idiots permanently camped outside the entrance gate. Apparently, the Company was squirting washing-up liquid into rats eyes and performing other such atrocities. However, since they couldn't get into the animal facility, they had no idea what went on.
i did some work at the MAFF place near york & for a couple of days there was a bunch of the same loons there harrassing everyone that came & went .
all banners & shouting about how no animal is here for our use & they are all living creatures that shouldn't be abused or slaughtered for our needs etc etc
we just cracked up at the leather jackets & shoes worn by the eejits :lol2:
 
#21 ·
They arent listened to by many or they would be more successful. They have such outrageous view on anything to do with animals that people tend to just smile and nod at them to make them go away!!

However they do manage to convert some people - until those very people go out into the world and realise!

As for animal activists concerned with animal testing - some have offered their child instead of the rat for testing... Thats takes a special someone!! :whistling2:

Someone should take PETA back to school :2thumb:
 
#22 ·
some have offered their child instead of the rat for testing... Thats takes a special someone!! :whistling2:
i think in this application the word is spelled "speshul" :lol2:
 
#23 ·
How can she condemn the keeping of one type of animal saying its cruel then give you a list of what they call the perfect animals to keep :gasp: its stupid for them to say keeping any animal is cruel when they have a group of animals they call perfect for keeping, also clearly they know nothing of devoted keepers i have never fed live and hopefully never will and i certainly wouldnt keep a prey animal in the tank for days because other than being insanely cruel to the rat or mouse its very dangerous to the snake (nothing more dangerous than a cornered terrified animal). I think it's best to completely ignore PETA :lol2:
 
#24 ·
#29 ·
I think that email has been getting bounced around since before 2004, and is USA based as the OP. No need to promote it even more, as much as they are wrongens.

Email PETA sent:
Thank you for contacting PETA about keeping snakes as pets.
We discourage people from choosing snakes as animal companions. As exotic animals, they require an environment that humans simply cannot provide. They are best adapted to life in the wild and are ill-equipped to spend their often-lengthy lives in confinement.
Keeping captive snakes is not only cruel to the snakes themselves but also to the animals who become their prey. In the wild, animals at least have the chance to escape a hunting snake, and if they are caught, their ordeal is soon over. But animals condemned to be eaten alive by captive snakes have to wait, sometimes for days, sharing a cage with a terrifying predator, until the snake finally becomes hungry enough to end the “prey” animal’s misery. Animals who are fed to snakes suffer horror and fear and have no chance of escape.
Not all captive snakes are fed live prey, however; snakes in zoos are usually given dead mice. Confronted with a snake who shows no interest in dead prey, zoo employees will often try to give dead mice the appearance of life by dangling them at the end of forceps.
PETA strongly encourages anyone who is presently keeping a snake to contact a herpetologist about the possibility of releasing that snake at a suitable time and place. These animals are very poorly suited to domestication. To learn more about ways to protect both wild and domesticated animals, please visit Companion Animals | PETA.org.
Lastly, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service recently recommended a ban against the import of nine snake species commonly sold as pets, so PETA is not alone in its concern for snakes. For the health and well-being of both people and reptiles, we support imposing a ban without further delay.

Thanks again for writing to PETA.

Sincerely,
Kate Hendrickson

Membership Correspondent

PETA Foundation | Oakland, CA

KateH@petaf.org






this was an email to a reptile owner in my area, this is the most insane dribble iv ever heard, when she wiped this out of her :censor: i bet shed never seen a snake owner. PETA spends so much money on shocktreatment style advertising where they find the complete bottom of the barrel worst animal environments imaginable, and pawn it off as "this is how it all is," that they euthanized more animals that the majority of animal shelters in america COMBINED. also, of the well over 200 reptile owners i know/have met/talk to regularly on here, not one would leave a live prey item in with their pet for days.... id have to get a snake out around a terrified rat if i did, as i tend to get my snake out most every day, my snakes probably live better than her children(if she even has any) also, im sure they support the ban, i bet theyd support a ban on any animal being kept or used in any way. and as for releasing my snakes into the wild? are you insane? every snake i own is at least 3 generations cb, they wouldnt last 30 min in the wild, my sunglow wouldnt last that long. if i have children, if they become PETA supporters, i think ill bash their head against a rock and try again, it should be justifiable homicide. this is why PETA is the biggest bunch of hardcore useless people in the world, rant over
 
#36 ·
I know, lets all release a load of mink from a fur farm and see how much good that does.....: victory:
dont get me started on that 1 !!!!:devil:
bunch of feckwits :bash::bash::bash:
 
#39 ·
Also I'm sure lots of dogs and cats love to be cooped up in a little house all day being terrorised by 2 year olds grabbing and hitting them
 
#41 · (Edited by Moderator)
Let's not forget how important groups like this (though less extreme) are. Lobbyists change rules for the better too, if they allow themselves to be educated. This is why we have minimum legal requirements for animal housing and care.

These groups do have a place, just not when they're stubborn, retarded :censor:.

PETA could work for us just as much as against, improve the hobby for the good overall, if they'd just take a minute to listen, and it's up to us to ensure that happens.
 
#44 ·
And that's one of the things that really irritates me about the email. Yes, *some* keepers feed live unnecessarily, of those some, a subset do so without care. But then, you know what? *Some* dog owners beat their dogs, but that doesn't warrant a ban on dog keeping! (Although PETA's stance must surely demand such a ban as well?)

Cheers
Steve
 
#46 ·
Sure, and what's more, they are clearly out of touch with what is going on in the snake world. Namely the development towards morphs. Anyone who thinks releasing a snake with even as subtle a mutation as the pastel is $'ing stupid. I wonder how well a super pastel, or black eyed leucistic would fare in the wild with such p$$$ poor camouflage... lol
 
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