Hi.

In a word no it will be far from Ok. I will explain. UVB does not travel well. In fact it has a very ltd range from the lamp. No standard output T8 lamp will ever be able to re-create wild levels of light exposure.

Now in these types of viv you have a mesh in the way also this will aslo dramitically reduce the available energy to the animal.

So what should we be doing. As we know all reptiles are solar powered! they rely on heat from the sun and wavelengths of light from the sun to manufacture vitamins inside of thier own bodies. They are however dependant on a certain quantity of exposure for these reaction to occur.

So the only way to work out what lamp must be used is to work with the wild animal first. We look at its wild environment, what the animal is seen doing day to day and the local seasons. We can then use the published outputs from lamps to Re-Create this level of exposure. This is the exact and most effective way of lighting reptiles.

So in short you will need to run a D3+ High output T5 system in that height viv for that species over around half of the enclosure and as part of the light and shade method. This is the only way to be sure that you are re-creating a wild and as such natural level of exposure.

There are loads of Cham keepers on here with Chameleoco being closest to you I guess. Why not ask Jamie what he thinks??

you can also find much more info at www.arcadia-reptile.com

I'm happy to help further if required

john

Evening all,

I have been looking at getting a Panther Chameleon and after doing a bit of research I've found most of the bits I need (I think)

Ill be getting a female from a local breeder here in Manchester.

My list so far:

ReptiBreeze - Zoo Med ReptiBreeze Screen Cage | eBay

I know a adult female will be ok in a large but what size for a baby?

60w Basking Lamp - Zoo Med REPTI BASKING SPOT LAMP 25W to 250W Vivarium | eBay

Light Dome - Zoo Med Mini Deep Dome Fixture 22cm, LF-18 | eBay

UVB Tube - Zoo Med ReptiSun 5.0 UVB Flourescent Tube | eBay

My questions are, will the UVB tube be ok or should I be looking at the 10.0 instead?

Also can anyone recommend me a good unit for the tube please.

Anyone use a ReptiBreeze here? Is the basking lamp ok ontop of the mesh? And the tube attached to the inside roof?

Thanks.

 

I used to use a reptiglo 10% and I thought it was ok.
After reading a few posts on here I upgraded to the Arcadia t5 12%. The difference with my Cham was quite significant. He became more active and his colours, even for a Yemen seemed to get brighter.

I use a reptibreeze and yes I have both the spot lamp, and uv tube on top. As Arcadia John says the UVB is reduced through the mesh yet I've experienced no trouble using the t5.

That's my setup. You can see the heat lamp and the tube on top. A must for the tube is a reflector hop this helps

And that's my dude having a snooze


*edit* just re-read your getting a panther, I don't really know the requirements for them if they are that different from Yemens?
Also I would get the biggest now as you are only going to upgrade later... Obviously it will be very big for a baby but you can easily section the top half off.


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Hi guys. Thanks for the replys.

This is one of the care sheets I have been looking at:
Panther Chameleon Care Sheet, Detailed Panther Chameleon Care, Panther Chameleon Locale Information, Buy panther chameleons, Panther Chameleons for Sale

I think I will try a t5 tube as I have seen it mentioned quite a bit on here.

What about the rest of the products linked though? John said it will be far from ok, were you just talking in terms of the UVB tube? Or all of it?

Any thoughts I on a unit for the tube? I'm presuming an Arcadia unit would be best to go with an Arcadia tube.

 

Everything else will be fine for an adult female. The cage may be a bit large depending on how big the female is when you get her. The t5 tubes need special t5 starters to go with them.

I take it you know about all the egg layoing that goes with female chameleons\?

 

I have only done a small amoun of research at this time. I will be getting a baby as they are still in the egg at the moment.

They are not ready for just over a month so I have enough time to further my knowledge.

I have briefly seen about egg laying in females but as yet haven't read into this in and more detail.

I have out a link in a previous post of the care sheet I have been reading from but is there any others you guys can recommend?

Thanks Matt.

 

I think he was just referring to the UVB. The rest is fine.

I'll leave you in the hands of Bradley
He has helped me with my setup and such and is alot more experienced than me


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Make sure the chameleon is at least 3 months before you purchase it. You know the females will remain mostly a peach/brown colour not colourful like the males on the caresheet the link was too?

Chameleoco's website has lots of good info on it
http://www.chameleoco.co.uk/articles-care-sheets.html

 

Thanks for that Bradley. I'm currently at work but ill make sure to have a read on there when I get home. I think ill try and get a male instead because of the colouration then.

 

Evening all,

I have been looking at getting a Panther Chameleon and after doing a bit of research I've found most of the bits I need (I think)

Ill be getting a female from a local breeder here in Manchester.

My list so far:

ReptiBreeze - Zoo Med ReptiBreeze Screen Cage | eBay

I know a adult female will be ok in a large but what size for a baby?

60w Basking Lamp - Zoo Med REPTI BASKING SPOT LAMP 25W to 250W Vivarium | eBay

Light Dome - Zoo Med Mini Deep Dome Fixture 22cm, LF-18 | eBay

UVB Tube - Zoo Med ReptiSun 5.0 UVB Flourescent Tube | eBay

My questions are, will the UVB tube be ok or should I be looking at the 10.0 instead?

Also can anyone recommend me a good unit for the tube please.

Anyone use a ReptiBreeze here? Is the basking lamp ok ontop of the mesh? And the tube attached to the inside roof?

Thanks.

hi there
I can offer you the full starter kit for around the same price as you have found there ,all singing and dancing ready for your chameleon.
If your interested just pm on here or FB:2thumb:

 

Hi I have just sent a request on fb

 

Hi there, I've got a small exo terra (30x30x45cm) WxDxH terrarium for sale. My male panther cham just recently outgrown it. I'll sell it with a small exo terra dome + 50 watt infrared heat bulb, a repti glow 5.0 compact UVB, polystyrene rock backboard, forest floor back-cover to cover the sides and provide security, and a small live umbrella plant (about 45cm tall). I'll sell it for £50 if your interested (spent over £100). Just be aware that this isn't a complete setup and will only last your cham for a few months, but it is a great starter setup as it retains and maintains the humidity very well, which is very important in your chameleons early life. You'll still need a separate dome for the UV bulb, an electric thermometer, and an electric hydrometer plus mister.

I'm no expert, your best asking Chameleoco or Muji chameleon world for further advice!

 

It's not somebody who is on here.

It's from a local shop.

Blue bar ambilobe is what I'm after.

This is the one I saw that made me want to keep one

 

Anyone got any thoughts on this

ARCADIA D3+ PRO VIVARIUM CANOPY 24W 12% UVB COMPACT LAMP REPTILE LIGHT REFLECTOR | eBay

 

Thats a good uv setup. That will be fine foe a smaller tank of 45 cm wide.

 

Sorry to bring this back up but im looking into a Cham set up myself.
Would this be more suitable
Vivarium Canopy 24W T5 Desert
I know its bigger but im looking at getting the reptibreeze XL

 

Yea that looks better too.

 

both of those canopies emit around the same amount of energy. the 45cm uses a brand new cutting edge new style of T5 power compact only available from us and the 60cm uses the high output T5 linear T5.

in effect both do the same job accept one is shorter than the other,.

john

 

Anyone know which is a better fit for the XL ReptiBreeze? I'm presuming the 60cm one but does it overhang?

 

There is no guarantee of exact fit but the XL is 60cms wide and our unit is 60cms so it should fit snugly together.

then fit it either to front section of the viv so that your cooler shaded zone is towards the back or visa versa depending on how you decide to decorate it.

failing that you could use the UVFLOOD to light a quarter of the viv as your UV rich zone. a few Cham keepers are finding this very good and allowa great self regualtion over a very wide area.

D3 UV Flood Lamp : Arcadia Reptile

john