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Signs of aging in snakes?

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#1 ·
Hello all! This thread is mainly out of curiosity, pics welcome!

It seems that in snakes determining age can be difficult, as size is often not an accurate idea of how old a snake is. For example, if the snake has reached the expected adult length/weight for the species and sex, how do you tell whether it's only just reached maturity or whether it a good few years past that age?

I'll share my observations from keeping an 'older' snake. I kept a corn snake around 7 years ago, who was given to me without knowing his actual age. But from the history of keeping that was known, he had to be at the very least 10 years old. His colouring was duller than you would expect of a young snake in his morph, and you could see up close lots of tiny 'salt and pepper' dots all over. He was 5'10 from his measured sheds, and he seemed to have a pretty chunky, defined head compared to most corns. I put these features down to age, as snakes generally continue to grow slightly throughout the years.

Does anyone here have any info on older snakes that they've observed?
 
#2 ·
Unlike other animals, it's impossible to say at what age state a snake is. I had a 21 year old Royal Python from a hatchling, and he looked no different physically to a 5 year old female.

I think that once snakes reach their average adult size, which can be between two and three years old, it's then impossible to age a snake visually, which is why records are so important.
 
#9 ·
I've got a Sinaloan who'll be 21 this year, i'd say she looks the same as she always had, it feel like her scales got a little extra black tipping in early adulthood but other than that the same. She's maybe had a couple of shedding issues in the last year i'm hoping to fix with a vitamin supplement, but other than that the same snake, same appetite and same activity level.

She's only ever been a 'pet' but i do wish i could go back in time and brumate her every year.
 
#4 ·
I kept a grey rat snake for 25 years, he was already fairly big when I got him, wild caught (many years ago), so must have been old. He only showed any signs of ageing in the last few months, a general loss of muscle tone and lack of movement. I had a garter (again a wild caught adult) for 10 years and it never showed signs of ageing.
 
#6 ·
Thank you for the replies everyone! It seems like as I'd thought there aren't really any indicators of age through appearance alone. My corns colouring may just have been how he always looked, though its interesting to hear that maybe his wider head shape was a feature of aging : victory: sorry not sure how to quote it but thanks for the tip on measuring snakes by their shed!
 
#8 ·
I think the speckling ( salt and pepper dots ) you describe appears fairly soon. My oldest corn snake is just 7, she had completely clear colours till around 2-3 years old. Her belly was pure white and black, but around 2-3 she started getting some colour and black speckles in the white bits, and developed far more melanin over her colours after 3-4. I know corn snakes do get more melanin and colours darken as the snake gets older ( obviously, amels can't get the melanin "overwash"), and heads are a bit bigger.

According to Kathy Love book - old corns show loss of muscle, spine protruding on snakes of otherwise good weight, permanently cloudy eyes, or permanently gaping mouth. Bear in mind that this was intensively bred corn snakes, and that corns or any snakes that are kept well, and as pets ( I.e. not overbred ) will live longer and might not show almost any of these signs till very old ( as others have shown in the replies above ).